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Old 04-30-2014, 08:54 AM
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Actually, I think he would. He would want me to be polite, which I have been so far! Answering questions about specific operations - I don't think he would want me answering those questions to an unknown entity.
Fair enough. Well sorry if I offended anyone at FedEx. Intentions were purely to feed my geeky curiosity about the industry.
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James, you want us to be suspicious to the point of paranoia. Too little suspicion and not paying attention allowed 9/11 to happen. Yeah, rudeness is unnecessary, but if you've been reading these forums....and not just the cargo forums, there's plenty to go around. It's nothing personal.
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I think the apology from James is humorous. Wasn't it just a couple posts back where all FX employees are DBs?

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Old 04-30-2014, 09:14 AM
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James I certainly don't want to lose a valuable customer like you, can you tell us what hotel you stayed at in Disneyland so we can know how many secrets your business is worth?

Seriously if you want your answers they are posted here, get a cup of coffee and use the search function. But a quick answer to your question; most of the pilots flying out of OAK or any other FDX hub are based in Memphis.
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Old 04-30-2014, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesAA
Suppose you and your CEO are at a FedEx public event party, and stupid ole me asks about the operations out of KOAK. You both might think I'm some sort of aviation dork, but I seriously doubt your CEO would want you handling my questions in the manner you have here.
James, this forum isn't what you think it is. We mostly use it to discuss in-house issues that impact us as pilots, not as an information clearinghouse for self-described aviation geeks.

I can't imagine a scenario where the CEO and I would be at a FedEx party together. When the company hosts parties for aviation geeks, they don't invite the pilots. I've never met or even seen the CEO in person. And he doesn't pay any of us here to field questions about his company from the general public.

He does, however, have a staff that DOES answer questions about FedEx from the public, and they're paid to be polite to aviation geeks and the like. You could write him with your questions.
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Old 04-30-2014, 12:58 PM
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How could the knowledge that a pilot's typical work day (such as, for example:OAK to LAX, sit for 2 hours then fly back to OAK) possibly be used against anyone or any entity in some ill manner? I don't see it. Sorry. It's not like this is CIA info I'm tapping. This is so general. I'm not asking for FDX pilot's names, SSNs, addresses, spouse and kids names, ...lol. I'm asking REALLY REALLY general questions. Just wanted some idea of what the night ops out of OAK were like. I think people here can divulge that info without worrying about some psycho reading it and somehow gaining new found knowledge which s/he can in turn use against FDX (or an individual). How could that even happen? I can see how exercising caution with regards to answering some questions posed in forums would be prudent. I just don't see the need for that type of caution or prudence with my questions.



Obv if I knew someone in the industry I would ask them. I really don't see the big fuss about asking a question which is common information. Are pilots not allowed to say what routes they fly? LOL, I guess I'm naive because I had no idea this was so hush hush.
Here is what you don't get: by itself this information is in fact quite benign. However, when you put it together with lots of other bits of information, a complete picture could be put together and used for some harmful purposes. A lot of FedEx pilots are former or current military and are quite aware of this concept. It is called Operations Security (opsec) and it is a way of life for most of us that were military. Just because you don't see it doesn't' mean someone else isn't putting it together one piece at a time.
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Well, I know the guy who is doing the OAK - TUS trips goes and runs the same route in OAK everyday around noon along Hersenberger (sp?) road. You might track him down and ask him. But for all I know you're his ex-wife's lawyer trying to track him down for the alimony payment. The guy doing the OAK - ABQ trip is going to eat at Franchesco's tonight. Look for him and ask him. But I know he has some bad gambling debts and you could be a mafia guy hunting him down.
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James -

I'll go out on a limb and assume you've never been in the military or law enforcement.

Please Google "Opsec" and "Comsec", do a little basic reading.

Then understand what it means when you state "...you don't even know me" and combine that with the fact that many pilots in civilian aviation spent years as pilots & officers in the military first

I think you will quickly see why you're not getting the same love a customer gets at Disneyland

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ps - if you started questioning a Disney employee about when their big supply trucks come and go, what back entrances they use, where their drivers report for work and where they're parked when they're off Disney properties, I think you may get a similar response.
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