Negotiations ; how about picketing ???
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 150
Let's just get back to the tickle fight we've all become very comfortable with around here, then....btw, not moving the freight hurts the customers that rely on us. Taking it to Wall Street hurts the people that sign our paychecks. That really seems to be what anyone is concerned about at the upper levels. I wouldn't concider that " burning down the house", just incentive for the higher ups to clean up this "labor mess" as quickly as possible.
#12
Let's just get back to the tickle fight we've all become very comfortable with around here, then....btw, not moving the freight hurts the customers that rely on us. Taking it to Wall Street hurts the people that sign our paychecks. That really seems to be what anyone is concerned about at the upper levels. I wouldn't concider that " burning down the house", just incentive for the higher ups to clean up this "labor mess" as quickly as possible.
In this challenging times, seems unfortunate that mgt isn't working to avoid forcing us to create just such a mess in the not too distant future.
Encouraging that they've accepted our PBS opposition, hopefully the pace will pick up a bit in the upcoming meetings
#13
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 46
We need to be mindful of the disadvantages of trying to wear a white hat when dealing with people of low character.
Make no mistake, the people our representatives are negotiating with are liars. They have not been negotiating in good faith. They want to forestall a new contract as long as possible. The recent history of our Association's dealings with them should provide ample example of where they are coming from and what their strategy is.
Whose responsibility is this situation, this impasse? I believe it's wholly management's. There is overwhelming evidence of that. They own the problem. The public and the shareholders have a right to know what's going on. They deserve to know that incompetent executives and managers, and the minion lawyers who do their bidding are putting the reliability of the system at risk, and that shareholder equity is also at risk.
The solution is easy. Management needs to negotiate in good faith. Some incompetent and self-serving executives and managers need to be cast by the wayside. They are likely lying up the management chain as well. There needs to be honesty, transparency, and accountability. The culture needs to change. The company needs to be what it proclaims itself, but ignores at the personal convenience of people who like to wear kilts. There really has to be a truly just culture before we can move forward to the benefit of all -- our customers, our shareholders and faithful employees. The boardroom, needs to fix this now.
Given the situation and the relative ease of a solution, this is a no-brainer from our position. It is time to call them out. It is a time for unity. It is a time for informational pickets. It is a time to change the terms of the games they are playing with us, our customers, and the shareholders.
It's time for the gloves to come off.
Make no mistake, the people our representatives are negotiating with are liars. They have not been negotiating in good faith. They want to forestall a new contract as long as possible. The recent history of our Association's dealings with them should provide ample example of where they are coming from and what their strategy is.
Whose responsibility is this situation, this impasse? I believe it's wholly management's. There is overwhelming evidence of that. They own the problem. The public and the shareholders have a right to know what's going on. They deserve to know that incompetent executives and managers, and the minion lawyers who do their bidding are putting the reliability of the system at risk, and that shareholder equity is also at risk.
The solution is easy. Management needs to negotiate in good faith. Some incompetent and self-serving executives and managers need to be cast by the wayside. They are likely lying up the management chain as well. There needs to be honesty, transparency, and accountability. The culture needs to change. The company needs to be what it proclaims itself, but ignores at the personal convenience of people who like to wear kilts. There really has to be a truly just culture before we can move forward to the benefit of all -- our customers, our shareholders and faithful employees. The boardroom, needs to fix this now.
Given the situation and the relative ease of a solution, this is a no-brainer from our position. It is time to call them out. It is a time for unity. It is a time for informational pickets. It is a time to change the terms of the games they are playing with us, our customers, and the shareholders.
It's time for the gloves to come off.
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,118
Run the APU, fly low, don't pick up disputed pairings, etc.
But advertising against your own company hurts yourself, and everyone else in the company too. In the long run especially.
UPS lost a lot of customers to us back in 97, would be a shame to give them all back over one contract.
But advertising against your own company hurts yourself, and everyone else in the company too. In the long run especially.
UPS lost a lot of customers to us back in 97, would be a shame to give them all back over one contract.
#15
Part Time Employee
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Dispersing Green House Gasses on a Global Basis
Posts: 1,918
#17
We need to be mindful of the disadvantages of trying to wear a white hat when dealing with people of low character.
Make no mistake, the people our representatives are negotiating with are liars. They have not been negotiating in good faith. They want to forestall a new contract as long as possible. The recent history of our Association's dealings with them should provide ample example of where they are coming from and what their strategy is.
Whose responsibility is this situation, this impasse? I believe it's wholly management's. There is overwhelming evidence of that. They own the problem. The public and the shareholders have a right to know what's going on. They deserve to know that incompetent executives and managers, and the minion lawyers who do their bidding are putting the reliability of the system at risk, and that shareholder equity is also at risk.
The solution is easy. Management needs to negotiate in good faith. Some incompetent and self-serving executives and managers need to be cast by the wayside. They are likely lying up the management chain as well. There needs to be honesty, transparency, and accountability. The culture needs to change. The company needs to be what it proclaims itself, but ignores at the personal convenience of people who like to wear kilts. There really has to be a truly just culture before we can move forward to the benefit of all -- our customers, our shareholders and faithful employees. The boardroom, needs to fix this now.
Given the situation and the relative ease of a solution, this is a no-brainer from our position. It is time to call them out. It is a time for unity. It is a time for informational pickets. It is a time to change the terms of the games they are playing with us, our customers, and the shareholders.
It's time for the gloves to come off.
Make no mistake, the people our representatives are negotiating with are liars. They have not been negotiating in good faith. They want to forestall a new contract as long as possible. The recent history of our Association's dealings with them should provide ample example of where they are coming from and what their strategy is.
Whose responsibility is this situation, this impasse? I believe it's wholly management's. There is overwhelming evidence of that. They own the problem. The public and the shareholders have a right to know what's going on. They deserve to know that incompetent executives and managers, and the minion lawyers who do their bidding are putting the reliability of the system at risk, and that shareholder equity is also at risk.
The solution is easy. Management needs to negotiate in good faith. Some incompetent and self-serving executives and managers need to be cast by the wayside. They are likely lying up the management chain as well. There needs to be honesty, transparency, and accountability. The culture needs to change. The company needs to be what it proclaims itself, but ignores at the personal convenience of people who like to wear kilts. There really has to be a truly just culture before we can move forward to the benefit of all -- our customers, our shareholders and faithful employees. The boardroom, needs to fix this now.
Given the situation and the relative ease of a solution, this is a no-brainer from our position. It is time to call them out. It is a time for unity. It is a time for informational pickets. It is a time to change the terms of the games they are playing with us, our customers, and the shareholders.
It's time for the gloves to come off.
fbh
#19
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I missed that. When did management drop their PBS negotiating stance?
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Clutch
OK The above was by Kronan not Peter Griffin.
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Clutch
OK The above was by Kronan not Peter Griffin.
Last edited by ClutchCargo; 04-10-2014 at 06:14 AM.
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