BYOB

I asked for the definition a few pages back. The answer I received is that they are Non-Union Replacement Pilots. Managment pilots that receive captain pay from day one. I assume as management that they don't pay union dues.

Sideshow Bob

They don't pay union dues, are governed only by FARs and can work all day in the office straightening magazines and cleaning toilets then fly all night.

They also will cross any picket line anywhere.

Shaggy1970

If that's not a definition of a scab I am not sure what is? This clown afLouisville is worthless, you guys are spinning your wheels with him. Just let him go away.

Swedish Blender

How about "one who works for less than union wages or on nonunion terms ". That works out pretty well since NURPS fly FAR limits.

No point in wrestling a pig in mud.

SaltyDog

They are not union members. If they were in the IPA, UPS requires they resign their union seniority number. This is what makes UPS different than any other airline. It is a one way permanent action that UPS management required and demanded in the contract and used to call a "promotion". It is rare for a IPA pilot to renounce their union number, most are hired in same manner as a line pilot, from the street. Very different path than a pilot at any airline (management or line). They are a manager/supervisor first and foremost. Flying is not primary duty.

From the UPS/IPA contract:
Art 2 definitions:
Crewmember -(excepting Management Crewmembers) - means the
Captains, First Officers, Professional Flight Engineers and Second
Officers and employed by the Company, who are currently on the
seniority list or will be added to the seniority list in accordance with this Agreement.

Gunter

Is it true that most of the NURPS do NOT have actual management responsibilities?

I've been told they do not, even though they are supposed to under the terms of being in "management".

L'il J.Seinfeld

Most ACPs can't even get you a crew meal due to insufficient authority.

Gunter

This is why I think the word scab applies.

Legally they are allowed BUT they need to be actual managers to be a legally recognized class of employee. They are not.

They are non-union workers doing a job declared held by union workers . UPS signed a contract establishing that fact.

Loon

To UPS pilots: I have no dog in the fight(as I have mentioned, I am a capt at chq), however I someday would like to apply at UPS. My question: I seem to recall that during the teamsters strike in 1997(?) that mangers drove the trucks filling in for the picketing drivers....does my memory serve me right? If that is the case, then wouldn't a fqs "filling in" during a strike be equivalent?
I am not trying to ruffle feathers or rattle anyones cage, I am just trying to get the big picture here.

RedeyeAV8r

Managers can cross a picket line to perform their Managerial duties only, but if they cross and Perform "Struck work" they are Scabs, just like any other person who performs struck work. A Scab is a Scab. Managers don't get a pass.