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Old 04-20-2014, 12:28 PM
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You are 100% correct
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Originally Posted by boxhauler
To be clear, the FAA pressured UPS to hire intl wide body pilots for the line, or for manger positions? Why would the FAA have any input on your company hiring guidelines either way? Just curious.....
For the line. Qualifications are nonexistent for management jobs.

FAA "highly encouraged" UPS to not hire fighter and RJ pilots as new hires in the MD-11 back in 2006-07 timeframe. That group had a lot of guys from Cathay, Atlas, and C-17/Tanker backgrounds.
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Originally Posted by Precontact
NURPS will always be at UPS...too much flexibility even though they cost a bit.
And we'll never retire the DC-8 either.

It's a whole new mindset in Atlanta. We have a model of mgt pilots that's unique to UPS. No other airline operates this way. No other mgt group in the company does union work. There are plenty of forces at play to see the end of this model. It's expensive, inefficient, and UPS would trade it for PBS in a second. PBS at UPS is a no-go item, but if ALPA agrees to it at FedEx we may be screwed.

There is a reason the last furloughees have been recalled so quickly. I haven't any clue why that is, but it is odd.
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
but if ALPA agrees to it at FedEx we may be screwed.

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Why? The only way we'll get PBS is if we're dumb enough to vote it in or if we were in bankruptcy and it's imposed by a judge. That's it.
As to voting it in, there are enough of us that had it at other airlines that would scream loudly if it were TAed.
Look at what a disaster our trip trade system is and imagine PBS.
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flew with a nurp the other day, he said that they had been told that there would be changes, he didn't know what the changes would be
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How about we stop theorizing/speculating and start attending the GMM's.
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Originally Posted by Shaggy1970
How about we stop theorizing/speculating and start attending the GMM's.
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Originally Posted by nightrider
flew with a nurp the other day, he said that they had been told that there would be changes, he didn't know what the changes would be
You thought I was joking about the 50 NURP reduction?

It's real, and they are going to rip each other apart to survive.

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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
You thought I was joking about the 50 NURP reduction?

It's real, and they are going to rip each other apart to survive.

"Mad Max Beyond Blunderdome"
Gonna be funny watching these guys. It's gonna be big brothers house style elimination. ...lies , backstabbing @ deception just to survive the next round.
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Originally Posted by BrownClown
Why? The only way we'll get PBS is if we're dumb enough to vote it in or if we were in bankruptcy and it's imposed by a judge. That's it.
As to voting it in, there are enough of us that had it at other airlines that would scream loudly if it were TAed.
Look at what a disaster our trip trade system is and imagine PBS.
To be technically correct PBS could be imposed during self help or as part of an arbitration ruling. Or at least that is my understanding of the RLA.
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