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03-25-2014, 12:42 PM
#461
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
FDXLAG,
How are you able to see the paycode for these guy's trips?
It doesn't have to be PMU to trump a trip trade.
Scenario:
Trip drops into open time, double deadhead. Frozen
You are determined to get it and sit at your computer for hours refressing the screen. Finally it opens up and you submit your trade.
If I have a general makeup request in the system that I either just put in when the trip appeared or if I put it in days prior, I get the trip and you get earlier timestamp. No PMU involved!
I am not saying that there isn't some funny stuff going on, only pointing out a way to increase your chances.
Any kind of makeup has priority over trip trade.
And I still want to know how one may access another's pay code.
How are you able to see the paycode for these guy's trips?
It doesn't have to be PMU to trump a trip trade.
Scenario:
Trip drops into open time, double deadhead. Frozen
You are determined to get it and sit at your computer for hours refressing the screen. Finally it opens up and you submit your trade.
If I have a general makeup request in the system that I either just put in when the trip appeared or if I put it in days prior, I get the trip and you get earlier timestamp. No PMU involved!
I am not saying that there isn't some funny stuff going on, only pointing out a way to increase your chances.
Any kind of makeup has priority over trip trade.
And I still want to know how one may access another's pay code.
Not seeing pay codes. I believe one of the wolf pack came here and claimed great luck via PMU. Trip specific MU always trumps Gen MU. Trip trades suck because of insufficient reserves. More work for the schedulers so they blow it off. But I bet they process trip trade sat the same time as open time.
03-25-2014, 12:56 PM
#463
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2013
Position: FedEx A-300 Captain
Posts: 125
FDXLAG,
How are you able to see the paycode for these guy's trips?
It doesn't have to be PMU to trump a trip trade.
Scenario:
Trip drops into open time, double deadhead. Frozen
You are determined to get it and sit at your computer for hours refressing the screen. Finally it opens up and you submit your trade.
If I have a general makeup request in the system that I either just put in when the trip appeared or if I put it in days prior, I get the trip and you get earlier timestamp. No PMU involved!
I am not saying that there isn't some funny stuff going on, only pointing out a way to increase your chances.
Any kind of makeup has priority over trip trade.
And I still want to know how one may access another's pay code.
How are you able to see the paycode for these guy's trips?
It doesn't have to be PMU to trump a trip trade.
Scenario:
Trip drops into open time, double deadhead. Frozen
You are determined to get it and sit at your computer for hours refressing the screen. Finally it opens up and you submit your trade.
If I have a general makeup request in the system that I either just put in when the trip appeared or if I put it in days prior, I get the trip and you get earlier timestamp. No PMU involved!
I am not saying that there isn't some funny stuff going on, only pointing out a way to increase your chances.
Any kind of makeup has priority over trip trade.
And I still want to know how one may access another's pay code.
It's pretty amazing to me that really none of us knows specifically how the trip trade/ make up process works. We have generalizations in the CBA and we also have assumptions on this forum (like re-cycling PMU) but somehow no one knows for sure. This process needs to be explained to the crew force so everyone knows what the rules are and how to play by these secret rules.
03-25-2014, 01:05 PM
#464
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: 777 Capt
Posts: 129
Ok, can't verify the PMU recycling loophole.
So your best shot at getting a trip is by M/U. Now the question is what is the priority in this category?
Is a trip specific request honored above a general request?
Does it go on time stamp? If so then a general request put in a week in advance is the way to go.
Does seniority count? I put my request in first but then 5 min later someone senior requests makeup. Does he get it?
Can't find any contract reference to answer these questions. Anyone?
So your best shot at getting a trip is by M/U. Now the question is what is the priority in this category?
Is a trip specific request honored above a general request?
Does it go on time stamp? If so then a general request put in a week in advance is the way to go.
Does seniority count? I put my request in first but then 5 min later someone senior requests makeup. Does he get it?
Can't find any contract reference to answer these questions. Anyone?
03-25-2014, 01:09 PM
#465
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: 777 Capt
Posts: 129
It's pretty amazing to me that really none of us knows specifically how the trip trade/ make up process works. We have generalizations in the CBA and we also have assumptions on this forum (like re-cycling PMU) but somehow no one knows for sure. This process needs to be explained to the crew force so everyone knows what the rules are and how to play by these secret rules.
Did I use all the correct buzz words?
03-25-2014, 05:28 PM
#469
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Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: 777 Capt
Posts: 129
All I know is what I can read in the contract, which aint much. Like I said I can't find any ref to open time trade in the list of how trips are assigned. Enlighten me. Seems to work as I described but I could be wrong.
03-25-2014, 05:56 PM
#470
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
I can't tell you when trip trades are processed, I can tell you schedulers will recommend drop then add to increase you chance for success.
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