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Old 01-23-2014, 10:47 PM
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Just took a glance at the training letters and it seems things start to run out in May. Given that we seem to be in a Spring/Summer cycle, anyone care to speculate on the next bid and what it will be? Who is hearing what?

I'll start. June and a smattering of everything except Anchorage. More 777/767/757 to comprise the majority. No excess on this one.

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Just took a glance at the training letters and it seems things start to run out in May. Given that we seem to be in a Spring/Summer cycle, anyone care to speculate on the next bid and what it will be? Who is hearing what?

I'll start. June and a smattering of everything except Anchorage. More 777/767/757 to comprise the majority. No excess on this one.

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Is this before or after they announce another round of 4a2b?
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Before ---- because we won't need another 4A2B

(....OBTW the last one was contrived)

I agree with WM where the vacancies will be, but would anticipate a "-1" on the MD-11 and A300 too

This will prevent any growth in those seats

Of course, the results are then followed by a long drawn out Training Letter --- or not --- because remember, it's in the structure and timing of the Training Letter where they can exercise max control of seat manning, at virtually their sole discretion
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-1 in the MD and Bus captain seats might work, but how do you fill our most junior seat (757 FO), without an excess bid? (Assume no new hires).
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-1 in the MD and Bus captain seats might work, but how do you fill our most junior seat (757 FO), without an excess bid? (Assume no new hires).
I'll bite…. One pay scale No more WB/NB scales with our new contract.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:38 AM
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I can appreciate all the speculation about nothing happening in ANC. At the same time, I have never seen such low Reserve usage in the last 7 years.

If management is okay with leaving us (in ANC) with no excess - I'll ride the get paid for nothing gravy train all day long.

If management is not okay with leaving ANC alone....I'll take a move package. (21 years of dark winters is enough)
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Old 01-24-2014, 10:26 AM
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Whale. How do you get 75% or so of our pilots to vote for a pay cut? (Assume a "cost neutral" contract).
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I'm guessing a vacancy bid with -1 in the Maddog, followed shortly thereafter with an excess bid in order to reduce and minimize passover pay. I expect the excess bid to fill narrow body right seats that remain after the vacancy bid.

...just one man's opinion.
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I don't think the company wants to get into the residential real estate market right now so no excess bid, just a vacancy bid large enough to kick the can a bit further down the road.
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Originally Posted by DLax85
Before ---- because we won't need another 4A2B

I agree with WM where the vacancies will be, but would anticipate a "-1" on the MD-11 and A300 too

This will prevent any growth in those seats
I don't think 4a2b is in our future. There are a few reasons for this. A big one is hiring causes an exit. I think we will need to hire for FDA FOs.

But I also think more than a -1 is in store for one or more MD11 domiciles. May only be FO but could include CA. No inside knowledge. Just my opinion based on fleet plan and obvious overmanning.
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