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Old 01-25-2014, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by olly
iaw AC117-1 the class 3 rest facilities must be approved by the PO[I]. Maybe the POI will have as much diligence enforcing this as he does FAA Order 8900.1 governing sick leave, where the company is in clear violation of that FAA order.
What specific section of the 8900.1 are you talking about? Since it took the place of the 8300 and 8400, both multi-thousand page references, I don't have time to read through the entire tome.
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What specific section of the 8900.1 are you talking about? Since it took the place of the 8300 and 8400, both multi-thousand page references, I don't have time to read through the entire tome.
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http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/1557086-post79.html
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Old 01-26-2014, 04:57 AM
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At a previous airline we had a similar policy of requiring doctor notes for sick calls. I had this exact discussion with our POI on how the company was able to legally do this. He said that even though he disagreed with the policy there was nothing the FAA could do until someone was disciplined for calling in sick. According to him getting a letter from the company wasn't enough, someone would need to be suspended or terminated. I'm not saying I agree with this interpretation or the policy, but that's what I was told.
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At a previous airline we had a similar policy of requiring doctor notes for sick calls. I had this exact discussion with our POI on how the company was able to legally do this. He said that even though he disagreed with the policy there was nothing the FAA could do until someone was disciplined for calling in sick. According to him getting a letter from the company wasn't enough, someone would need to be suspended or terminated. I'm not saying I agree with this interpretation or the policy, but that's what I was told.
A few years ago, management got a hot idea about who they were going to target for additional checkrides. These people included those who have called in sick too often, and who didn't have many landings (whatever numbers they deemed appropriate, number not released). They dropped that after awhile, I don't know if it was due to legality, outcry, or union objections.

I wonder if targeting people for additional checkrides would be something the FAA considers disciplinary. Seems as if it surely would.
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A doctor and a lawyer were talking at a party. Their conversation was constantly interrupted by people describing their ailments and asking the doctor for free medical advice. After an hour of this, the exasperated doctor asked the lawyer, "What do you do to stop people from asking you for legal advice when you're out of the office?"

"I give it to them," replied the lawyer, "and then I send them a bill." The doctor was shocked, but agreed to give it a try. The next day, still feeling slightly guilty, the doctor prepared the bills. When he went to place them in his mailbox, he found a bill from the lawyer.
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Originally Posted by olly
Good detective work...you must have too much time on your hands. Only problem I see is that the 8900 is policy and guidance and doesn't carry the same weight as regulations. IMHO
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