WSJ article on UPS BHM crash
10-12-2013, 07:31 AM
#11
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The Airline/Cargo industry pushes for these rules then hides behind the FAA when there's an accident. Saying "we comply with the FAA rules" is just lawyer speak for "we do what we want"
10-12-2013, 08:37 AM
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10-12-2013, 08:45 AM
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"he had remained a co-pilot for about 19 years, an unusually long time, which people familiar with his training record attributed to difficulties during some simulator sessions."
10-12-2013, 08:54 AM
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10-12-2013, 09:49 AM
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Schedulers at my airline have always said, "But it is legal" when I try to adjust my showtime after waiting 2-3 hours for them to schedule a hotel room for an unscheduled 8 hour overnight.
Good thing that I don’t mind calling out fatigued, but someone on probation might not do that especially when they throw out the “But you are on probation” or “You will have to explain this to your CP” lines.
Good thing that I don’t mind calling out fatigued, but someone on probation might not do that especially when they throw out the “But you are on probation” or “You will have to explain this to your CP” lines.
10-12-2013, 10:17 AM
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Best regulatory agency money can buy.
MD11=MD10...
10-12-2013, 12:49 PM
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Pilot error,,,plain & simple. It happens.1) If he was with the company 19 yrs. he was used to flying fatigued. 2) Where the hell is the FO in all this. And how come he let his Capt. fly him into the ground??
Just calling it like I see it.
Just calling it like I see it.
10-12-2013, 01:04 PM
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Yeah, but some of us pilots are way over conservative.
I fly with some captains that always add fuel no matter what, even when we don't need it.
In your case I see no problem landing at max weight, as long as it fits into the runway distance calculation and performance data, etc. Even if they take off 2000 lbs of fuel will that really matter if you come in ref+30 and float.....probably not.
It is all about flying the plane.
I fly with some captains that always add fuel no matter what, even when we don't need it.
In your case I see no problem landing at max weight, as long as it fits into the runway distance calculation and performance data, etc. Even if they take off 2000 lbs of fuel will that really matter if you come in ref+30 and float.....probably not.
It is all about flying the plane.
Have you done a number of night arrivals into Guatemala City in the rainy season? Maybe you have, and our opinions simply differ. That place can be scary.
Even when conditions are good, it's not an airport to mess with in any way due to the RWY itself, let alone the nasty terrain. And when there is moisture, even if there is no reported moisture, the runway, with decades of oil and rubber greased into the pavement, becomes very slick. Then you fall off the cliff.
It is stupid to ferry fuel into MGGT, IMO. Ferry the gas into other airports, but there are a handful like MGGT where it may be legal, but not smart.
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