HKFlyr

There won't be much movement on the top half if this list. Pretty stable.

I'm willing to venture that an excess would only effect those people that have the most to loose, the junior HK Captains, and the FEPP list that has to bid, train, and come out here as a result of an excess...

Perfect storm for it...and management would like to solve that problem. Food for thought.

MaydayMark

Tony,

He read it on the Internet ... it MUST be correct

HKFlyr

Forgive the autocorrect misspelled words...didn't edit quick enough.

CloudSailor

I trust my source over you, completely, sorry. Just like I trust the SIG when it comes to guidance on DP's while in SUB, over your advice given here on APC, sorry again.

Just curious, were you on the MEC when the original HKG LOA was created?

By good day I mean, I'm not interested in answering your hypothetical questions, and done arguing with you. But please, make sure you have the last word.

CloudSailor

And, by the way, it has been confirmed to me by someone who went through the entire investigation process, that the final settlements offered by the company did NOT include admittance of guilt.

TonyC

While attending the SPSC Pilot Unity Building event last night, I happened to meet the dissenting board member whose name appears in the Decision 1 and Decision 3. He invites you to contact him to set you straight.






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CloudSailor

Well, I got my info from 1 of the 7 pilots involved. So, I don't know what to say. Unless you personally read the settlement offers (I did not), you are quoting someone else's words, and so am I.

So, were you involved in the creation of the original FDA LOA? Really, just curious. It seems that the LOA is the root cause of a lot of this present mess.

The Walrus

I hadn't heard that one of the 7 was a union officer.

CloudSailor

1 of the 7 pilots, AFTER the fact that the union officer had told me about this months ago... 2 different pilots confirming the same story. However, I did not personally read the settlement agreements.

Gunter

While it is somewhat entertaining watching you argue, here are my take aways.

1) When dealing with legal matters, get legal advice. Maybe from more than one source. Common sense and fair does not equate to legally defensible.

2) If it's a matter concerning my JOB it's of the highest priority and there is no room for ego in my decision making.

3) For a critical situation the quality of the advice becomes an important factor.

Someone remarked that discrimination over marital status has some hurdles that we may not be considering.

Is accepting a HKG assignment a condition of employment?

I'm not a lawyer so I have no opinion but it could be that the optional nature of the assignment is playing a role. But I think management is pushing this by calling in newhires to start just for the FDAs. For them I would say it WAS a condition of employment. Perhaps for a future arbitration to consider. I did NOT stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so your mileage may vary.

I'd like to see the arbitration option go away. They are scumbags who search for a small technicality to justify a decision a judge and jury would throw out. It's like another layer of management available via short term contract. Maybe that's why managements always insist on the clause.