MD11Fr8Dog

You'll have to fill out a leave request form, or at least sign the Snivel Log!

CloudSailor

I heard it directly from an ALPA guy who was involved in all of this, that the final settlement offered, which ALPA strongly encouraged all the pilots to take (and the 3 that still have a job did just that), did NOT include language admitting to having committed fraud. I never read it with my own eyes, but I heard this from a union officer I fully trust.

So, yes, after receiving that advice from ALPA lawyers, I would have taken the settlement, like the 3 other pilots did.

TonyC

Deflect and distract. Typical Company tactics.

Now, reread my question and answer it, not a question you invented yourself.


Would you have accepted a settlement, even if it required you to admit to committing fraud?






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CloudSailor

??? I quoted your exact question.

I'm talking about what happened in HKG, not your hypothetical questions. The final settlement did not include the language you're referring to (that is the distraction here), and as such, I would have accepted it had I been in their shoes.

TonyC

You fully trust a union officer who divulged details of a confidential agreement.


Interesting.






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CloudSailor

This was after it was all concluded. Yes, I trust him.

Anyway, good day...

TonyC

You quoted it, but did not answer it.

Based on your conclusion that the IF clause was false, based on your conversation with an officer who you claim divulged information from the confidential settlement offer, you decided to answer a different question.

Reminds me of some of Cardaci's comms. Hey, we support them, but ....






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HKFlyr

Wonder which MEC officer? One of the two that ran for ALPA national office while we were in initial negotiations? And were too busy to address the HK housing allowance issue, because they were campaigning for the higher paying national job? None of them have any credibility out here. None.

Don't argue with an idiot Tony...you know the saying...

Bets on an excess in HK, by the way? Sure would clear up that FEPP issue the company wants to fix...

TonyC

Not only is your source to be mistrusted (for divulging what would be confidential information), he is incorrect.

Furthermore, your counting to 7 skills leave something to be desired. 3 pilots did not accept their settlement offers.

1 pilot resigned. 1 pilot had extenuating circumstances which excused his receipt of the housing allowance. Only 2 accepted the settlement offer. 1 had family circumstances that made it impossible to fight The Company. The other accepted the revised-revised-revised settlement offer on the eve of her arbitration hearing. 3 pilots refused to admit guilt.

It's doubtful that you give a whit about accurate score-keeping, but there it is. Your facts are wrong, and you source is unreliable and untrustworthy.



SO, do you want to answer my question, or does your "Good day" mean you have already conceded?






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NoHaz

Won't help reduce FEPP if the senior pilots bid to relieve excess