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Old 10-08-2013, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
I'm no lawyer either, but I believe the FAA cannot be sued.

Pilots are pretty smart folks but they're not lawyers. Maybe we should ask a real lawyer?

Vagabond ... what's your opinion?
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:06 AM
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Pilots are pretty smart folks but they're not lawyers. Maybe we should ask a real lawyer?

Vagabond ... what's your opinion?
Mayday - don't you realize that Vags is really a 15 year old kid hooked on flight simulator and only pretending to be a seasoned lawyer
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:06 AM
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There you go, my belief was incorrect. I guess an easy Google search would've helped.
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Old 10-08-2013, 05:42 AM
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Can you sue the federal government?

The answer is: sometimes.

Sovereign immunity prevents it, unless the claim comes under the specific exemptions allowed by the Federal Tort Claims Act.

Federal Tort Claims Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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why don't we ask someone who has a layover at a Holiday Inn Express?
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So it's the FAA's fault the pilot didn't put in enough rudder correction during takeoff?

And if this is true:

"Yet, passengers and some crew members who filed the FAA lawsuit also blamed air traffic controllers for failing to inform pilots of crosswinds gusting to 40 mph, Lampert said."

No wonder major airline pilots always ask for wind checks. Maybe they are on to something.
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FrontSeat
They can be sued and as big logistic companies proved they can be bought
Follow the money trail.
It isn't the FAA that you ought to be suing, but rather the companies who pay LARGE sums of money to the lobbyists who then climb inside the ears of Congress, who then direct to the gov't agency to act on whatever *big picture plan* is agreed upon.

I was reading a story in an aviation magazine recently that related a story of an instrument rated private pilot who knowingly flew into a Level 5/6 thunderstorm and crashed, killing the sole occupant. The family sued the FAA for not doing enough to keep the pilot (a successful businessman) safe, though he knew of the weather before takeoff, and ATC tried to help him during the flight too. In the end, the judge ruled 60% the pilot's fault for violating numerous FARs and 40% the FAA's fault for not helping keep him safe. That 40% fault equaled $4 million.

It certainly seems that Sully has always been bringing the 'Cargo Cutout' to the forefront of the discussions.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
I was reading a story in an aviation magazine recently that related a story of an instrument rated private pilot who knowingly flew into a Level 5/6 thunderstorm and crashed, killing the sole occupant. The family sued the FAA for not doing enough to keep the pilot (a successful businessman) safe, though he knew of the weather before takeoff, and ATC tried to help him during the flight too. In the end, the judge ruled 60% the pilot's fault for violating numerous FARs and 40% the FAA's fault for not helping keep him safe. That 40% fault equaled $4 million.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR

I was reading a story in an aviation magazine recently that related a story of an instrument rated private pilot who knowingly flew into a Level 5/6 thunderstorm and crashed, killing the sole occupant. The family sued the FAA for not doing enough to keep the pilot (a successful businessman) safe, though he knew of the weather before takeoff, and ATC tried to help him during the flight too. In the end, the judge ruled 60% the pilot's fault for violating numerous FARs and 40% the FAA's fault for not helping keep him safe. That 40% fault equaled $4 million.
Things never seem to change. I read a similar article 20 years ago about a C210 breaking up in flight while flying through a line of embedded level 5 thunderstorms. Cessna was found at fault when the wings just fell off. Never underestimate the ignorance of the average American juror.
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
I can't read the article either ...

Is this Sully, the Capt. Sully that landed his A320 in the Hudson River? What's taken him so long to speak up, his input might have been helpful during the "Cargo Cutout" debate!
Umm no.. This is Sully the big blue hairy guy from Monsters Inc.
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