FDX Jumpseats
06-13-2013, 07:20 AM
#81
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1) HUMOROUS REPLY
That's great news! I'll be bringing my wife along on the next trip!
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1) SERIOUS REPLY
NO! Absolutely not!
2 reasons:
First, the Captain only has the authority to DENY flight deck access. In order for a person to be granted access to the flight deck, he must have permission from 3 (three) parties:
- The FAA
- The Certificate holder
- The Pilot in Command
Second, .583 applies to supernumerary seats, those seats outside of the flight deck. By definition, no flight deck access is involved. The seats covered by this section are located aft of the Intruder Resistant Cockpit Door -- if such a door exists on the airplane. If no such door exists on the airplane, no such seats exist on the airplane, and no such passengers may ride.
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So strange that 583 says the following "(e) The pilot in command may authorize a person covered by paragraph (a) of this section to be admitted to the crew compartment of the airplane."
Just me, but that means if they can ride in the back, totally okay to ride up front with your Okay.
And, as to the ramp check, I'd be very surprised if the inspector wouldn't allow you to leave the jet and access one of the company computer's to print out a copy of the FCIF\FOM re our POI's okay on this policy.
Well, actually, an AMT wouldn't be riding up front with you on Personal status....so, I'd be surprised if it happened to me.
To change the subject, kind of, Do you keep a logbook? If not, how do you answer an inspectors query as to whether or not you are current to operate? I know many people depend upon the electronic flight records the company maintains, but again, that would require access to a company computer to prove should the inspector doubt your veracity.
06-13-2013, 07:42 AM
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We're not talking ancient history or special exceptions. We are talking the basic requirements posted on the PFC website, which as far back as I can remember said 4-year degree.
06-13-2013, 09:07 AM
#83
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Actually, what we are talking about is what the FAA requires. It was not a requirement at Fedex 3 years ago.
Fedex could require it's pilots to all have time on the space shuttle to get an interview, but it is not required by FAA regulations.
Fedex could require it's pilots to all have time on the space shuttle to get an interview, but it is not required by FAA regulations.
06-13-2013, 06:12 PM
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There is a maintenance guy that commutes from DFW.
I'd like to know how his priority compares to mine
He is on the jumpseat at least twice a week, and, since he knows his schedule before I know mine, he can book ahead of me.
What is my union doing about this?
Pilots should have priority for jumpseats over maintenance, or else why am I paying my 2%?
I'd like to know how his priority compares to mine
He is on the jumpseat at least twice a week, and, since he knows his schedule before I know mine, he can book ahead of me.
What is my union doing about this?
Pilots should have priority for jumpseats over maintenance, or else why am I paying my 2%?
The company offers the benefit (flight privilege) to those allowed by FAR's. We all have to live with the fact that there is limited seating.
One of my concerns is that crewmembers and most of FDX work in secure work areas. Mechanics are required to have tool to do their job. Many of their tools would be prohibited for a crewmember to be in possession of while on FDX property. Especially at an outstation the cockpit jumpseating mechanic has access to his work station while waiting to board. While we're giving up our nail clippers the mechanics have access to prohibited items. One level of security?
I wouldn't blame anyone that would rather pay for a seat on commercial than ride with some of you arrogant sons...
06-13-2013, 06:17 PM
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[QUOTE=fdx727pilot;1427553]So, you are stating that a Dispatcher's certificate was not a prerequisite to apply for the GOC Specialist position, because I know that at least for tha last ten years, that is wrong.
I will the requirement to have a dispatchers licenses was not a requirement years ago nor were the box GOC guys required to ever get one. That changed around 10 to 15 years ago but one could still be hired without a license but FedEx would train and have you tested to obtain one.
I will the requirement to have a dispatchers licenses was not a requirement years ago nor were the box GOC guys required to ever get one. That changed around 10 to 15 years ago but one could still be hired without a license but FedEx would train and have you tested to obtain one.
06-13-2013, 07:09 PM
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That's exactly the attitude that drives a wedge between the two groups.
The company offers the benefit (flight privilege) to those allowed by FAR's. We all have to live with the fact that there is limited seating.
What I find really bizarre is that mechanics have access to all the inner working of an aircraft on the ground, yet there are those that feel they could be a threat in flight. A mechanics job is to ensure airworthiness. 50% of all fatal aircraft accidents are blamed on pilot error, all other human error accounts for 7%, that's, ATC, aircraft loading, fueling and maintenance errors, combined. And pilots are afraid of mechanics? I think mechanics have way more right to be afraid of pilots.
I wouldn't blame anyone that would rather pay for a seat on commercial than ride with some of you arrogant sons...
The company offers the benefit (flight privilege) to those allowed by FAR's. We all have to live with the fact that there is limited seating.
What I find really bizarre is that mechanics have access to all the inner working of an aircraft on the ground, yet there are those that feel they could be a threat in flight. A mechanics job is to ensure airworthiness. 50% of all fatal aircraft accidents are blamed on pilot error, all other human error accounts for 7%, that's, ATC, aircraft loading, fueling and maintenance errors, combined. And pilots are afraid of mechanics? I think mechanics have way more right to be afraid of pilots.
I wouldn't blame anyone that would rather pay for a seat on commercial than ride with some of you arrogant sons...
06-13-2013, 07:12 PM
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[QUOTE=HIFLYR;1427950]
Current internal job posted for GOC have to have your dispatch cert with in 90 days if you don't have one..Although I don't think they entertain anyone without the cert.. But hey you can get it in 5 to 6 weeks
So, you are stating that a Dispatcher's certificate was not a prerequisite to apply for the GOC Specialist position, because I know that at least for tha last ten years, that is wrong.
I will the requirement to have a dispatchers licenses was not a requirement years ago nor were the box GOC guys required to ever get one. That changed around 10 to 15 years ago but one could still be hired without a license but FedEx would train and have you tested to obtain one.
I will the requirement to have a dispatchers licenses was not a requirement years ago nor were the box GOC guys required to ever get one. That changed around 10 to 15 years ago but one could still be hired without a license but FedEx would train and have you tested to obtain one.
06-13-2013, 09:30 PM
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I wouldn't blame anyone that would rather pay for a seat on commercial than ride with some of you arrogant sons...[/QUOTE]
FedEx is a commercial airline, we operate aircraft for the purpose of generating revenue. I get tired of explaining this to non-aviators.
FedEx is a commercial airline, we operate aircraft for the purpose of generating revenue. I get tired of explaining this to non-aviators.
06-13-2013, 09:49 PM
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