FDX Jumpseats
06-11-2013, 04:21 PM
#61
Organizational Learning
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(And I don't carry copies of FCIFs when I fly, so I won't even try to tell him 8900.1 is wrong.)
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1) HUMOROUS REPLY
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1) SERIOUS REPLY
2 reasons:
First, the Captain only has the authority to DENY flight deck access. In order for a person to be granted access to the flight deck, he must have permission from 3 (three) parties:
- The FAA
- The Certificate holder
- The Pilot in Command
Second, .583 applies to supernumerary seats, those seats outside of the flight deck. By definition, no flight deck access is involved. The seats covered by this section are located aft of the Intruder Resistant Cockpit Door -- if such a door exists on the airplane. If no such door exists on the airplane, no such seats exist on the airplane, and no such passengers may ride.
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06-11-2013, 04:37 PM
#62
Organizational Learning
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Why don't you tell us more about that process. Is it anything like the FBI background check I was required to get?
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06-12-2013, 01:27 PM
#63
Gets Weekends Off
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06-12-2013, 03:24 PM
#64
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A dispatcher's presence on the flight deck is never necessary for me, or for the safe completion of a flight. As testament, I've completed thousands of flights without the presence of a dispatcher on the flight deck. In fact, I've completed thousands of flights under Part 121 without a dispatcher being involved in any capacity whatsoever.
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With his vast knowledge of Federal Aviation Regulations and his ability to decipher certain FAR'S that are vague to the average airman, it appears we don't really need company manuals such as OPSPECS and Flight Operation Manuals after all.
Part 121 companies don't need POI's, flight standards departments or even training departments. All a company needs is a TonyC with an FBI background check.
06-12-2013, 04:31 PM
#67
Slainge Var'
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So...if he says that dispatchers aren't required on the flight deck (personal travel or otherwise) .....that means he is saying that they aren't needed at all? I've seen some swings and misses here over the years but you now occupy first place. This reminds me of the logic one gets when you argue with your teenage daughter. Just WOW!
06-12-2013, 05:28 PM
#68
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So...if he says that dispatchers aren't required on the flight deck (personal travel or otherwise) .....that means he is saying that they aren't needed at all? I've seen some swings and misses here over the years but you now occupy first place. This reminds me of the logic one gets when you argue with your teenage daughter. Just WOW!
"In fact, I've completed thousands of flights under Part 121 without a dispatcher being involved in any capacity whatsoever." you don't think that shouldn't require a little ball-busting? Because unless he has personally crunched the numbers on the Part 121 minimum fuel requirements for the flights he's operated, he has in fact had a dispatcher involved in one capacity or another.
And I'm not putting words in his mouth. He said, and I quote "I've completed thousands of flights under Part 121 without a dispatcher being involved in any capacity whatsoever. So yes, he is saying that in his opinion, they are not needed at all due to the thousands of flights he's completed without them being involved in any capacity whatsoever.
TonyC is a man who has demonstrated his ability to dissect and interpret complex paragraphs and sentences. So lets just wait and see how the aviation expert describes how he was able to accomplish all of the requirements of piecing together thousands of legal, Part 121 flight releases without a dispatcher being involved.
In addition to that, I'm curious how he can explain signing the flight releases he computed that requires both captain and dispatchers signatures, without a dispatchers signature. The inspector with the badge will be wondering how TonyC interpreted that controlling regulation when he's ramp checked in ABQ.
And no FDXLAG, dispatchers don't use E6B's. But as Tony already knows, the FAA requires complex flight planning systems with redundent servers in case of a computer outage. Flight releases can be done manually, but only domestic flights and they are very time consuming, unless you're TonyC.
I probably should have put a lot more smiles in there since you failed to see my sarcasm.
06-12-2013, 05:36 PM
#69
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Come on man, when he says:
"In fact, I've completed thousands of flights under Part 121 without a dispatcher being involved in any capacity whatsoever." you don't think that shouldn't require a little ball-busting? Because unless he has personally crunched the numbers on the Part 121 minimum fuel requirements for the flights he's operated, he has in fact had a dispatcher involved in one capacity or another.
And I'm not putting words in his mouth. He said, and I quote "I've completed thousands of flights under Part 121 without a dispatcher being involved in any capacity whatsoever. So yes, he is saying that in his opinion, they are not needed at all due to the thousands of flights he's completed without them being involved in any capacity whatsoever.
TonyC is a man who has demonstrated his ability to dissect and interpret complex paragraphs and sentences. So lets just wait and see how the aviation expert describes how he was able to accomplish all of the requirements of piecing together thousands of legal, Part 121 flight releases without a dispatcher being involved.
In addition to that, I'm curious how he can explain signing the flight releases he computed that requires both captain and dispatchers signatures, without a dispatchers signature. The inspector with the badge will be wondering how TonyC interpreted that controlling regulation when he's ramp checked in ABQ.
And no FDXLAG, dispatchers don't use E6B's. But as Tony already knows, the FAA requires complex flight planning systems with redundent servers in case of a computer outage. Flight releases can be done manually, but only domestic flights and they are very time consuming, unless you're TonyC.
I probably should have put a lot more smiles in there since you failed to see my sarcasm.
"In fact, I've completed thousands of flights under Part 121 without a dispatcher being involved in any capacity whatsoever." you don't think that shouldn't require a little ball-busting? Because unless he has personally crunched the numbers on the Part 121 minimum fuel requirements for the flights he's operated, he has in fact had a dispatcher involved in one capacity or another.
And I'm not putting words in his mouth. He said, and I quote "I've completed thousands of flights under Part 121 without a dispatcher being involved in any capacity whatsoever. So yes, he is saying that in his opinion, they are not needed at all due to the thousands of flights he's completed without them being involved in any capacity whatsoever.
TonyC is a man who has demonstrated his ability to dissect and interpret complex paragraphs and sentences. So lets just wait and see how the aviation expert describes how he was able to accomplish all of the requirements of piecing together thousands of legal, Part 121 flight releases without a dispatcher being involved.
In addition to that, I'm curious how he can explain signing the flight releases he computed that requires both captain and dispatchers signatures, without a dispatchers signature. The inspector with the badge will be wondering how TonyC interpreted that controlling regulation when he's ramp checked in ABQ.
And no FDXLAG, dispatchers don't use E6B's. But as Tony already knows, the FAA requires complex flight planning systems with redundent servers in case of a computer outage. Flight releases can be done manually, but only domestic flights and they are very time consuming, unless you're TonyC.
I probably should have put a lot more smiles in there since you failed to see my sarcasm.
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