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Old 06-17-2013, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerOnWall

Maybe you should go back and reread. Your previous post included references to cancelled documents.

I'll excuse your ignorance since this was posted before I told the bedtime story. The good thing about ignorance is that there is a cure: knowledge.

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Old 06-17-2013, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerOnWall

I'll take that as affirmation that you agreed.

I'll take that as further evidence that you cannot read and understand English.

AND that attempting to discuss this with you has been a colossal waste of my time.


(I made the big word a hyperlink -- that means you can click on it to find out what it means. )






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Tony C. is the Sheldon Cooper of APC. No other opinions or points of view are allowed.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:49 AM
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Bottom line -

Does a dispatcher want me standing over their shoulder at their desk for the duration of their workday? A bit distracting and uncomfortable? You bet.

Does a mechanic want me following him around and standing over his workbench and watching him do his paperwork, etc for the duration of his workday? A bit distracting and uncomfortable? You bet.

Does an executive want me to sit on the couch in his office for the duration of his workday? A bit distracting and uncomfortable? You bet.

We extend OUR JS to fellow crew members as a courtesy. I'll bet the folks in the above examples don't mind when fellow dispatchers, mechanics, or office geeks enter their workspace. IT'S DIFFERENT!!

Why does anyone think this is ok? It would not be tolerated by any other work group. IT IS A DISTRACTION, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!

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Old 06-17-2013, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyinhigh

Tony C. is the Sheldon Cooper of APC. No other opinions or points of view are allowed.

What good are wrong opinions?






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Old 06-17-2013, 12:38 PM
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What good are wrong opinions?
Wrong opinions are APC's rice bowl. Without them, each thread would consist of only a single post.
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:34 PM
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Well, I hate to run counter to all the kindness this thread has produced, but I'll take a dispatcher on my jumpseat anytime. I figure the more he/she learns about what I do and what I need from my dispatcher, the easier it will be for him to give me the help I need. I don't care if he's going to see Aunt Suzi or not, I WANT him on the jumpseat, not snoozing in the back. I want him to be part of the equation.

We often bit@h about the lack of help we get from our dispatchers. Put 'em in the cockpit and let them see what we see. Might work out for all of us. Just my opinion tho.

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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
But you are qualified to supervise us?
None of you are qualified to supervise me nor am I qualified to supervise you, it's ridiculous and childish to insinuate that we would be doing that when jumpseating.

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Old 06-17-2013, 07:45 PM
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The letter I have found from SVP of TechOps lists; Regulatory, Security, Flight, and Finance departments involved in the company decision to allow FAA certificate holders to jumpseat, domestic personal travel, with PIC approval.

I know how some of you feel but will share the PM I got from one of your coworkers:


[deleted PM]

That being said: I have no idea why anyone would attempt to jumpseat for personal travel, knowing the possibility of being rejected by a PIC.


It will be interesting how this plays out. I sure wouldn't want to be a PIC that loses my job for violating company policy and has to battle in court over FAR interpretation.

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Old 06-18-2013, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerOnWall

The letter I have found from SVP of TechOps lists; Regulatory, Security, Flight, and Finance departments involved in the company decision to allow FAA certificate holders to jumpseat, domestic personal travel, with PIC approval.

Did you get that from your cubical neighbor?

I'm impressed that the Finance Department signed off on the jumpseat policy -- we know how important their opinion is.





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I sure wouldn't want to be a high time PIC and lose my job over violating company policy and have to battle in court over FAR interpretation.

What was that? Say that again.

Originally Posted by FlyerOnWall

I sure wouldn't want to be a PIC that loses my job for violating company policy and has to battle in court over FAR interpretation.

Yeah, that's what I thought you said. That, ladies and gentlemen, is the threat The Company would like you as a PIC to perceive so they can impose their new policy on you. Fear of losing your job for violating a company policy ... the fear that chills your authority as PIC to operate according to the FAA's rules.


If I didn't know better, I might take "Glen the mechanic" for a company shill planted on APC to stir up trouble. Oh, wait, I don't know any better. You joined APC 9 days ago, shortly after the discussion on this thread began developing. Since joining, you've posted in this thread and one other, and you weren't very complimentary towards pilots in the other, either:
Originally Posted by FlyerOnWall

Just irkes me that some think a pilot's certificate automatically gives superhuman ability.


On the flip side, experience does count for something. I do have a much better sense of distance/thickness measurements with my eyes than most. It could be partly some natural instinct, but probably has to do with work experience.

Why don't you take your natural instinct to measure thickness and ...

... well, I can't think of a good use for that, and I don't want to suggest that you do something that's physically impossible, so I'll just leave you to find something productive to do with your thickness guage.


So, you've had your fun. Now you can show your cubicle buddies what you've done, and then go find someplace else to stir up trouble. It was fun.









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