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03-11-2013, 10:29 AM
#62
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: B777 FO
Posts: 101
Heard that the number of authorized open time requests has been reduced by more than 1/2. Yea yea I know that 100 open time requests in a 24 hour period may be excessive but it's all about access to VIPs anytime no matter what. Anyone hearing otherwise.
03-11-2013, 10:42 AM
#63
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: MD-11 Captain
Posts: 4,304
03-11-2013, 10:54 AM
#64
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 556
With regards to my comment about CAPTCHA codes and whether the response should be supplied by a human or a program ...
I am not prohibited from storing my password and my eGrid on a secure computer. Therefore, if I open my laptop and click one button to log on the pilot.fedex.com automatically, I have violated no policy. They may have intended for me to read the CAPTCHA and look at my eGrid and enter three alpha-numeric characters manually, but if my program does it for me automatically, so be it. If they want to make a rule that requires me to enter it manually, that's another story.
I am also not advising that pilots access VIPS remotely. I am simply stating that The Company's claim that remote access is a problem is a fabrication on their part. It was never a problem before, and when done from secure computers now it should not pose a problem -- except that they're having bandwidth issues.
My bottom line is that we should be pushing back against The Company and not against each other.
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I am not prohibited from storing my password and my eGrid on a secure computer. Therefore, if I open my laptop and click one button to log on the pilot.fedex.com automatically, I have violated no policy. They may have intended for me to read the CAPTCHA and look at my eGrid and enter three alpha-numeric characters manually, but if my program does it for me automatically, so be it. If they want to make a rule that requires me to enter it manually, that's another story.
I am also not advising that pilots access VIPS remotely. I am simply stating that The Company's claim that remote access is a problem is a fabrication on their part. It was never a problem before, and when done from secure computers now it should not pose a problem -- except that they're having bandwidth issues.
My bottom line is that we should be pushing back against The Company and not against each other.
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03-11-2013, 11:21 AM
#65
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: B777 Capt
Posts: 614
Not true. It is the password to Company data and Company computers. They can (and have) specified how and where it can be stored. To maintain they can not specify that is naive. To tell others on this bulletin board that their policy does not apply to our group is risky.
03-11-2013, 11:32 AM
#66
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: B777 Capt
Posts: 614
The Company again hands the advantage to the rule breakers.
The 100 Open Time limit per day just makes it more valuable to have a group of guys sharing passwords and bribing schedulers.
This is in addition to the advantage they handed to the rule breakers with the 'baby' CAPTCHA for trip trades. (see previous post)
Maybe the schedulers were denied a cash raise, and the fact that this will make any scheduler leak even more valuable, has been added to their 'overall' compensation package?
And my apologies to the schedulers. The inside info may be coming from a different group all together. But some advance inside information is leaking from somewhere to a very select group. 'Scheduler' was used as a generic term for insider information.
The 100 Open Time limit per day just makes it more valuable to have a group of guys sharing passwords and bribing schedulers.
This is in addition to the advantage they handed to the rule breakers with the 'baby' CAPTCHA for trip trades. (see previous post)
Maybe the schedulers were denied a cash raise, and the fact that this will make any scheduler leak even more valuable, has been added to their 'overall' compensation package?
And my apologies to the schedulers. The inside info may be coming from a different group all together. But some advance inside information is leaking from somewhere to a very select group. 'Scheduler' was used as a generic term for insider information.
03-11-2013, 01:49 PM
#69
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Joined APC: Dec 2011
Posts: 166
I have been blocked out of VIPS before. I have no idea what a bot is or how to get one. I was obsessing about my calendar around the holidays with family plans hinging on my schedule and so I kept checking not sure when it was officially going to be posted. Wasn't even checking open time. Every time I walked by the computer, I hit refresh just thinking it would post any second and then bam, access denied because I exceeded the daily allowance. Don't remember what the number was, but it was not even related to open time. Was just trying to check my own schedule, not trying to pick up at trip at all. Just did it the slow, old fashioned way, but I guess too many times in a short period of time.
03-11-2013, 02:04 PM
#70
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Scarebus Captain
Posts: 1,090
I have been blocked out of VIPS before. I have no idea what a bot is or how to get one. I was obsessing about my calendar around the holidays with family plans hinging on my schedule and so I kept checking not sure when it was officially going to be posted. Wasn't even checking open time. Every time I walked by the computer, I hit refresh just thinking it would post any second and then bam, access denied because I exceeded the daily allowance. Don't remember what the number was, but it was not even related to open time. Was just trying to check my own schedule, not trying to pick up at trip at all. Just did it the slow, old fashioned way, but I guess too many times in a short period of time.
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