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03-11-2013, 06:46 AM
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
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So, you state the CAPTCHA "has the stated purpose of having a person and not a computer read the challenge." You imply The Company wants that function to be performed by a person and not a computer. Well, that's nice. There are a few things we want, too. Do you suppose they'll give us everything we want? I don't. Nor do I believe we should hand them everything they want. If they want it badly enough, let's see the CBA language they propose. Maybe we can bargain. As it stands now, there is no such restriction.
And as it stands now, The Company is using our jealousy to divide us.
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Magic disk and green screen may have worked that way before but that does not mean, IMHO, that the Company can't change their minds. Fact is that IT is way different than those years and I think it is bad advice to imply that there is nothing wrong with remote access to ViPs any longer since they have made a clear statement. To do so now puts those users at risk and we do not need more pilots fired.
03-11-2013, 07:23 AM
#54
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 777 F/O
Posts: 340
We could process open time requests at set intervals during the day and in seniority order. BOT problem solved.
We have 1% who are cheating on the rest of the crew force and most of the crew force doesn't know or much less care. I know & I care. I went to pro Standards, they told me to go to my block rep. I went to my block rep, he told me to go to the company.
We have 1% who are cheating on the rest of the crew force and most of the crew force doesn't know or much less care. I know & I care. I went to pro Standards, they told me to go to my block rep. I went to my block rep, he told me to go to the company.
03-11-2013, 07:32 AM
#55
Fill'er Up Again
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03-11-2013, 08:03 AM
#56
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,091
...the CBA does not say a lot of things and the Company has the right to control access to it's business machines...Fact is that IT is way different than those years and I think it is bad advice to imply that there is nothing wrong with remote access to ViPs any longer since they have made a clear statement. To do so now puts those users at risk and we do not need more pilots fired.
03-11-2013, 08:34 AM
#57
...Whatever It Is!
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Posts: 4,680
03-11-2013, 08:53 AM
#58
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: B777 Captain
Posts: 566
Exactly. Make it "real time" for a trip leaving in a couple of hours, but as the trip gets farther out, increase the window before it is assigned until is is at least 24 hours. That protects those out flying. The order of assignment for those longer out there can be based on some other metric, starting with OTP, PMU, then maybe leveling/hours cap (my preference), seniority, inverse seniority, or some other parameter.
03-11-2013, 08:59 AM
#59
Organizational Learning
Joined APC: Nov 2005
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I understand your viewpoint TonyC, but the CBA does not say a lot of things and the Company has the right to control access to it's business machines. You are correct that our CBA secures us "access" to the Computers but I see nothing that prevents the Company from making Infosec policies that require you to be a live person and not share or store your password in order to use said machines.
Magic disk and green screen may have worked that way before but that does not mean, IMHO, that the Company can't change their minds. Fact is that IT is way different than those years and I think it is bad advice to imply that there is nothing wrong with remote access to ViPs any longer since they have made a clear statement. To do so now puts those users at risk and we do not need more pilots fired.
I am not prohibited from storing my password and my eGrid on a secure computer. Therefore, if I open my laptop and click one button to log on the pilot.fedex.com automatically, I have violated no policy. They may have intended for me to read the CAPTCHA and look at my eGrid and enter three alpha-numeric characters manually, but if my program does it for me automatically, so be it. If they want to make a rule that requires me to enter it manually, that's another story.
I am also not advising that pilots access VIPS remotely. I am simply stating that The Company's claim that remote access is a problem is a fabrication on their part. It was never a problem before, and when done from secure computers now it should not pose a problem -- except that they're having bandwidth issues.
My bottom line is that we should be pushing back against The Company and not against each other.
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