Albief15

3 % a year, improvements to FDA, and ASAP.

How much do you think ASAP is worth to the crew of the Denver tailstrike? I suspect they are glad its in place, and the value to them is priceless.

For those who say we were getting that anyway, I point out EFBs in every jet, ipad for all pilots, and FAA flight time/duty time improvements were all on the calendar or were proposed too...and we still do not have them. The pragmatic approach may have just saved some careers. Anyone who has used ASAP in the last 2 years and avoided enforcement action will probably say they got a bit more than just a 3% raise....

PicklePausePull

Have to waive the @%&* flag on this one, Albie.

ASAP is a safety program that has been instituted at many airlines prior to FedEx outside of negotiations for monetary items. If it was a quid pro quo here, then shame on you guys for trading away fair compensation for a safety program that should have been negotiated independently. ASAP protects the airline from federal fines as much as it protects us from disciplinary measures.

AFW_MD11

any single item that is negotiated (ASAP program for example) requires BOTH sides of the negotiation to be willing to negotiate.

how willing do any of us think that FedEx (the company side) was to negotiate the implementation of this kind of safety program AT ALL - let alone outside a "quid pro quo" scenario? and just hand over ASAP on a silver platter "in the interests of Safety First"?

how willing have they been up until now to release the full findings of the Enders Report "in the interests of Safety First"?

(hint: not at all willing - in either case - see any trends there?)

Busboy

As part of the "Just Culture" that we now enjoy...I'm "absolutely, positively" sure that they would have instituted an ASAP, without us having to pay for it in $$.

TonyC

As our MEC Chairman is always quick to point out, there's the other negotiation, the one taking place in Washington, D.C.

Here's a link to the FAA's webpage titled Safety: Safety Management System (SMS): Aviation Safety - Safety Management System (SMS)

ARC ... NPRM ... we've heard those acronymns before ... Aviation Rulemaking Committee ... Notice of Proposed Rulemaking ...

At about the same time that we opened our CBA for RLA Section 6 negotiations, the FAA issued an NPRM which would require all Part 121 Certificate holders to implement a Safety Management System, which would include LOSA (which we already had), ASAP, FOQA, and FRMS (that's Fatigue Risk Management System). It's funny that where we had a place for ASAP in our 2006 CBA, we had fought The Company ever since then for a program which would not put pilots at risk for participating. Then, with the NPRM looming over their heads, they magically became cooperative in establishing all three programs required to complete the SMS required by the FAA's NPRM. But, where did that NPRM come from? Did it just materialize out of thin air? No, Congress acted.

Here's a quote from one of those NPRMs:
That's why we have ASAP (nad FOQA and FRMS) -- not because we persuaded The Company to give it to us in a quid pro quo negotiation at the table.







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FXDX

First practice bid is out. No secondaries, no surprise.

Huck

No secondaries. None.

Airbus, MD11 and 777 are all going to stop training in March?

TonyC

10 Captains and 9 FOs are downbidding from wide-bodies? Yeahright.


Practice bids are a joke.




Literally.






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Overnitefr8

Actually, if you look at the top tier currently in the captain seat, many have down bid. So I wouldn't put it past some of them, but hopefully this is a joke and I won't move down in seniority. But of course, they are allowed to excercise their seniority rights.

USMCFDX

And why would 727 guys bid off when they will probably have the summer off, if not longer? Only thing I can think of is they can't live on 68 hours BLG.