New Aircraft Rumor at UPS
01-28-2013, 07:06 PM
#83
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You can look at APC's info regarding numbers of aircraft and pilots. That gives you a "rough" guess. Widebody fleets have more pilots per aircraft than say the 757 domestic. Not many though.
Since S.D. has been in charge we are staffed very lean. We have fewer pilots than Southwest per aircraft if my math was correct.
. I always consider SW very efficient!
What brownie is talking about is there are 150+ NURP's (non union replacement pilots, that believe they are in charge of something, they have an M on their ID that simply stands for MEAT (not ver fresh either)) that will fly the aircraft whenever and where ever UPS want's. They can fly to the FAR limits. Fairly useful if there are any "labor" issues.
Since S.D. has been in charge we are staffed very lean. We have fewer pilots than Southwest per aircraft if my math was correct.
. I always consider SW very efficient! What brownie is talking about is there are 150+ NURP's (non union replacement pilots, that believe they are in charge of something, they have an M on their ID that simply stands for MEAT (not ver fresh either)) that will fly the aircraft whenever and where ever UPS want's. They can fly to the FAR limits. Fairly useful if there are any "labor" issues.
01-30-2013, 09:46 AM
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IMO, once that last 767 shows up, as long as Scotty is the CEO, UPS will not purchase another airframe for years. He is ALL about profit growth through efficiency "enhancement" and has no interest in growing the "airline".
A NURP told me that UPS MEANT for the TNT deal to fail.
A NURP told me that UPS MEANT for the TNT deal to fail.
01-30-2013, 11:03 AM
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While I "doubt" that - it almost makes sense.
For the price of walking away from the deal, they kill a competitor - albeit a small niche one.
Cheaper than taking them on head to head.
Now they can grow into those markets "their" way without having to merge operations, systems, personal, tracking etc.
TNT will die on the vine as large long term contracts transition to more "stable" operators.
The EU "anti-competition" commission is going to still only have three operators (UPS, FDX, DHL/D-post) and a lot more people out on the street collecting unemployment at the burdens of their respective governments as opposed to working for Brown.
For the price of walking away from the deal, they kill a competitor - albeit a small niche one.
Cheaper than taking them on head to head.
Now they can grow into those markets "their" way without having to merge operations, systems, personal, tracking etc.
TNT will die on the vine as large long term contracts transition to more "stable" operators.
The EU "anti-competition" commission is going to still only have three operators (UPS, FDX, DHL/D-post) and a lot more people out on the street collecting unemployment at the burdens of their respective governments as opposed to working for Brown.
Last edited by ERJ Jay; 01-30-2013 at 11:16 AM.
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