China Southern so cheap they wont deice
01-18-2013, 02:32 PM
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What does Performance Enhancing Drugs (PED's) have to do with this topic? Was Lance Armstrong part of that Northwest crew? Guess I shoulda watched the Oprah interview.
, it is in the news even today due to the push for limiting or banning PED's. Just google it but to answer your Q it was the former carrier based in Minnesota.
01-18-2013, 03:12 PM
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No longer deadheading on CZ they switched me to Asiana, so I'm guessing the rumor about CZ being taken off the approved list is true.
Thanks to the O.P for documenting his issues and making things safer for us all and thanks to the company for doing the right thing.
01-18-2013, 03:44 PM
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Not living under a rock! I just don't remember any part of the story that said they overflew by 200 miles. In fact, the FAA's reference to 150 miles is an exaggeration!
Who knows, before the end of the year it will probably be; they overflew by 500 miles and landed on fumes with one engine flamed out and a flight attendant at the controls because the crew was passed out drunk and flying in their underwear!
Who knows, before the end of the year it will probably be; they overflew by 500 miles and landed on fumes with one engine flamed out and a flight attendant at the controls because the crew was passed out drunk and flying in their underwear!
01-18-2013, 10:53 PM
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Just had the pairing I'm on at the moment changed by the company.
No longer deadheading on CZ they switched me to Asiana, so I'm guessing the rumor about CZ being taken off the approved list is true.
Thanks to the O.P for documenting his issues and making things safer for us all and thanks to the company for doing the right thing.
No longer deadheading on CZ they switched me to Asiana, so I'm guessing the rumor about CZ being taken off the approved list is true.
Thanks to the O.P for documenting his issues and making things safer for us all and thanks to the company for doing the right thing.
One thing that does bother me is that I'm not sure if it was my actions of the ops report and emails making this change, or was it this forum..... All I know is that I still have not received any formal response even to let me know that the ops report or emails were received in the first place. That I find disconcerting.....
01-19-2013, 02:37 AM
#45
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DH Changed
I have just heard through indirect channels that over 1100 DHs have been cancelled on China Southern. I'm not sure when the decision was made or by whom, but I do think that it is a good move for us at least temporarily until this issue is resolved. As above posts suggest, this might have been a singular error of the crew and not a culture at this airline. I just didn't like being the one having to "ride" it out.
One thing that does bother me is that I'm not sure if it was my actions of the ops report and emails making this change, or was it this forum..... All I know is that I still have not received any formal response even to let me know that the ops report or emails were received in the first place. That I find disconcerting.....
One thing that does bother me is that I'm not sure if it was my actions of the ops report and emails making this change, or was it this forum..... All I know is that I still have not received any formal response even to let me know that the ops report or emails were received in the first place. That I find disconcerting.....
01-19-2013, 05:10 AM
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Might be some legal concerns they have to run through the lawyers before or if they respond.
01-19-2013, 07:57 AM
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He landed in CAN
According to Google, that flight goes NRT to CAN.
So, you are entering communist China, do you really want to call the Captain to task?
Perhaps show him the pics you took?
You might get to meet the local cops, and have a little visit to the big house on some trumped up charges.
They would also take your camera to destroy the evidence.
Personally, I am of the opinion that the OP did the right thing.
Of course, you guys do what you want.
So, you are entering communist China, do you really want to call the Captain to task?
Perhaps show him the pics you took?
You might get to meet the local cops, and have a little visit to the big house on some trumped up charges.
They would also take your camera to destroy the evidence.
Personally, I am of the opinion that the OP did the right thing.
Of course, you guys do what you want.
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