FDX: Seat Bid
03-11-2013, 07:25 PM
#131
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Not exactly mike.
From the contract:
"Passover pay due in accordance with Section 24.D.2., (and Section 11.M.18.d.), shall be paid on a monthly basis, in accordance with Section 3.E. Repayment of passover pay from pilots who do not activate in the crew position that generated the passover pay shall be exclusively limited to situations in which the pilot:
withdrew from training for the new crew position before such training began, other than as provided in Section 11.I.2.e. or Section 24.E.3.;
or
withdrew from training for the new crew position after such training began, other than as provided in Section 11.I.2.e.;
or in a subsequent posting, received a different intervening award to remain in his current position, or to a lower paying crew position than his current crew position;
or incurs a training cycle failure."
I added the bold text in the applicable section. The flexes aren't getting any special deal, the contract states that so long as they don't bid down to a lower paying seat or to their current seat on a subsequent posting, they don't have to pay it back. The same as anybody else on passover pay.
A lateral bid on a subsequent posting means no repayment of passover.
From the contract:
"Passover pay due in accordance with Section 24.D.2., (and Section 11.M.18.d.), shall be paid on a monthly basis, in accordance with Section 3.E. Repayment of passover pay from pilots who do not activate in the crew position that generated the passover pay shall be exclusively limited to situations in which the pilot:
withdrew from training for the new crew position before such training began, other than as provided in Section 11.I.2.e. or Section 24.E.3.;
or
withdrew from training for the new crew position after such training began, other than as provided in Section 11.I.2.e.;
or in a subsequent posting, received a different intervening award to remain in his current position, or to a lower paying crew position than his current crew position;
or incurs a training cycle failure."
I added the bold text in the applicable section. The flexes aren't getting any special deal, the contract states that so long as they don't bid down to a lower paying seat or to their current seat on a subsequent posting, they don't have to pay it back. The same as anybody else on passover pay.
A lateral bid on a subsequent posting means no repayment of passover.
03-11-2013, 08:12 PM
#132
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 329
Not exactly mike.
From the contract:
"Passover pay due in accordance with Section 24.D.2., (and Section 11.M.18.d.), shall be paid on a monthly basis, in accordance with Section 3.E. Repayment of passover pay from pilots who do not activate in the crew position that generated the passover pay shall be exclusively limited to situations in which the pilot:
withdrew from training for the new crew position before such training began, other than as provided in Section 11.I.2.e. or Section 24.E.3.;
or
withdrew from training for the new crew position after such training began, other than as provided in Section 11.I.2.e.;
or in a subsequent posting, received a different intervening award to remain in his current position, or to a lower paying crew position than his current crew position;
or incurs a training cycle failure."
I added the bold text in the applicable section. The flexes aren't getting any special deal, the contract states that so long as they don't bid down to a lower paying seat or to their current seat on a subsequent posting, they don't have to pay it back. The same as anybody else on passover pay.
A lateral bid on a subsequent posting means no repayment of passover.
From the contract:
"Passover pay due in accordance with Section 24.D.2., (and Section 11.M.18.d.), shall be paid on a monthly basis, in accordance with Section 3.E. Repayment of passover pay from pilots who do not activate in the crew position that generated the passover pay shall be exclusively limited to situations in which the pilot:
withdrew from training for the new crew position before such training began, other than as provided in Section 11.I.2.e. or Section 24.E.3.;
or
withdrew from training for the new crew position after such training began, other than as provided in Section 11.I.2.e.;
or in a subsequent posting, received a different intervening award to remain in his current position, or to a lower paying crew position than his current crew position;
or incurs a training cycle failure."
I added the bold text in the applicable section. The flexes aren't getting any special deal, the contract states that so long as they don't bid down to a lower paying seat or to their current seat on a subsequent posting, they don't have to pay it back. The same as anybody else on passover pay.
A lateral bid on a subsequent posting means no repayment of passover.
Last edited by av8rmike; 03-11-2013 at 08:54 PM.
03-12-2013, 04:06 AM
#135
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03-12-2013, 07:21 AM
#139
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Posts: 2,237
I'd say the fleets in question are the older Airbii and the MD10's. They're both subject to the changes in the postal contract. 757 and 777 are not going to change, and the MD11 has found a niche. 727 is a dead man walking.
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