FDX - CIC and recurrent tng bid
12-08-2012, 04:46 AM
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FDX - CIC and recurrent tng bid
I'll email the union and see if I can talk with crew planning. Just wondering if anyone has some first-hand experience:
You decline to waive the international buffers during the initial bid and then conflict your recurrent training with the single departure line you're awarded.
Can you then bid (and get awarded) a CIC trip during the view/add window that has your training in the buffer or does your initial choice not to waive still stand.
Thanks.
You decline to waive the international buffers during the initial bid and then conflict your recurrent training with the single departure line you're awarded.
Can you then bid (and get awarded) a CIC trip during the view/add window that has your training in the buffer or does your initial choice not to waive still stand.
Thanks.
12-08-2012, 06:37 AM
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I'll email the union and see if I can talk with crew planning. Just wondering if anyone has some first-hand experience:
You decline to waive the international buffers during the initial bid and then conflict your recurrent training with the single departure line you're awarded.
Can you then bid (and get awarded) a CIC trip during the view/add window that has your training in the buffer or does your initial choice not to waive still stand.
Thanks.
You decline to waive the international buffers during the initial bid and then conflict your recurrent training with the single departure line you're awarded.
Can you then bid (and get awarded) a CIC trip during the view/add window that has your training in the buffer or does your initial choice not to waive still stand.
Thanks.
12-13-2012, 04:34 AM
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Another sort of CIC question - didn't think it worthy of a new thread.
You have a long (over 120 hours TAFB) trip ending on the last day of the bid month. If you bid another long trip that starts on the next day (first day of the new bid month), is the new trip going to be dropped because it hits the 48 hour buffer?
I know it would if the end/start days were in the same bid month. Just need to make sure there isn't some exemption when each trip falls in its own month.
thanks
You have a long (over 120 hours TAFB) trip ending on the last day of the bid month. If you bid another long trip that starts on the next day (first day of the new bid month), is the new trip going to be dropped because it hits the 48 hour buffer?
I know it would if the end/start days were in the same bid month. Just need to make sure there isn't some exemption when each trip falls in its own month.
thanks
12-13-2012, 06:56 AM
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Another sort of CIC question - didn't think it worthy of a new thread.
You have a long (over 120 hours TAFB) trip ending on the last day of the bid month. If you bid another long trip that starts on the next day (first day of the new bid month), is the new trip going to be dropped because it hits the 48 hour buffer?
I know it would if the end/start days were in the same bid month. Just need to make sure there isn't some exemption when each trip falls in its own month.
thanks
You have a long (over 120 hours TAFB) trip ending on the last day of the bid month. If you bid another long trip that starts on the next day (first day of the new bid month), is the new trip going to be dropped because it hits the 48 hour buffer?
I know it would if the end/start days were in the same bid month. Just need to make sure there isn't some exemption when each trip falls in its own month.
thanks
That depends on how you answered the "Do you wish to waive the International Duty Free Buffer" question when you input your bid.
12-13-2012, 08:53 AM
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Doesn't the fact that I'm asking about the buffer in this scenario imply that it hasn't been waived?
Just looking for more expert opinion and less
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12-13-2012, 10:09 AM
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Now, if the first trip ended in 2012 and the next one began in 2013...That would be a different story.
12-13-2012, 10:27 AM
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Bid packs aren't built with buffer conflicts. So, your same month question would only happen if you put in for make up, etc. When you put in for make up, etc you automatically waive contractual buffers if there is a conflict.
To answer your question without any or
25.F.1. A phase-in conflict occurs when:
b. a pilot is unable to perform an assignment(s) in a bid period due to a trip (including an international buffer, if any) that began in the previous bid period or a carryover R-day(s). For purposes of determining conflicts with R-days on which no activity has been assigned, the following shall apply:
If you did not waive International Duty Free Buffer when you bid for the next month the trip will be removed for CIC
To answer your question without any
or 25.F.1. A phase-in conflict occurs when:
b. a pilot is unable to perform an assignment(s) in a bid period due to a trip (including an international buffer, if any) that began in the previous bid period or a carryover R-day(s). For purposes of determining conflicts with R-days on which no activity has been assigned, the following shall apply:
If you did not waive International Duty Free Buffer when you bid for the next month the trip will be removed for CIC
12-13-2012, 10:44 AM
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Thanks, Max.
Busboy - what you say makes sense and I was pretty sure about the answer. There have been times I tried to apply common sense to the contract and bidding process and have gotten burned. Now I just ask stupid questions.
Busboy - what you say makes sense and I was pretty sure about the answer. There have been times I tried to apply common sense to the contract and bidding process and have gotten burned. Now I just ask stupid questions.
12-14-2012, 06:50 PM
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Another sort of CIC question - didn't think it worthy of a new thread.
You have a long (over 120 hours TAFB) trip ending on the last day of the bid month. If you bid another long trip that starts on the next day (first day of the new bid month), is the new trip going to be dropped because it hits the 48 hour buffer?
I know it would if the end/start days were in the same bid month. Just need to make sure there isn't some exemption when each trip falls in its own month.
thanks
You have a long (over 120 hours TAFB) trip ending on the last day of the bid month. If you bid another long trip that starts on the next day (first day of the new bid month), is the new trip going to be dropped because it hits the 48 hour buffer?
I know it would if the end/start days were in the same bid month. Just need to make sure there isn't some exemption when each trip falls in its own month.
thanks
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