Gunter

There is also the chance you would be extended, at draft pay, up to 3 days without your consent.

Gunter

This is not unheard of. They want to make you pay for being sick on reserve because they think it fits the "crime." Presently, it costs them nothing whether they're caught doing it or not. I'd like to see it go to arbitration as a habitual and willful violation. Damages should be paid.

If they want it changed, negotiate it into the next CBA.

Gunter

Honestly, we would appreciate you spreading the truth about this. This kind of thing shows you how far some are willing to go to drive a wedge between between employee groups.

MaydayMark

Several thoughts ...

- EVERY time I have called in SCK on Reserve I had hours deducted from my sick bank. It appears that they penalize EVERYONE that has the nerve to be sick!

- Almost never been released on last R day. When I called and asked they told me they could ALWAYS MOVE AN R DAY and be able to use me!*? (they told me this when I was on my last R-day for the month?)

- We need to make the trip/reserve assignment process MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT in the upcoming negotiations!

olly

[QUOTE=Barista;1287265]in the specific incident I referenced, all the am recoveries were on deck - so no divert recovery option. It was the last day of the last block of R days for the month- so there was no day for scheduling to move.

So with all the ams flights on deck, severe clear wx, nothing in open time, and good for one day- even the scheduler admitted there was nothing she could do with me. My question is does CRS have a "policy" for release.
Was at ual in the good days, and on your last day by noon if they hadn't notified you of a trip you were auto released- didn't have to burden the schedulers with requests. Additionally we could pick up trips during our reserve footprint if they were within the footprint by a few days. Cant recall the precise parameters without the contract but it was far better than 1st fly.

If there was a trip in open time, that a regular line holder was not picking up within 36 hours of show time a reserve could pick it up. There were constraints, but it provided a modicum of control to a mostly uncontrolable situation.

pipe

Here's my question: Is there anything that you guys do with open time requests other than "hit the button"? It seems to me that legality, time/date stamp, and any other parameter that SHOULD be considered is and can be handled by the computer. What is the scheduler input? Is there any legitimate reason for you guys to manually deny a trade or make-up request that the computer would otherwise approve?

PIPE

HoursHore

Will scheduling build trips that fit your r day foot print knowing they are going to revise it to the maximum allowable extension?( 48 hrs). The old dh switch to revenue leg trick.

9ESOCCFI

There is an AUTO button in the VIPS trip trade software. When I go to process a trip trade I will pull up the pilot in another VIPS screen and make sure that the trip that is trying to be swapped on too will not cause any conflicts. In the past the auto feature did not do a good job looking at the 12 hour training buffer. As long as it appears to work I will hit the auto button and see if the software approves it. You are correct in saying that the computer looks at the legalities, banks, and other parameters that I can not think of. If the computer approves the swap, drop, or pickup I make sure the correct changes are posted to your calendars and move on.

I can not think of any reason that we would manually deny a trade, pick up, or drop. I believe that the pilots side of the trip trade process will prevent any inputs that we would have to deny. Trying to drop a trip in the assignment window would be a good example. The pilot can not even put that request in.

When it comes to processing trip drops we trust the rsv requirements that have been inputed into vips by the folks higher up the ladder. VIPS knows how many rsvs are on for a given day and it knows how many are needed. We will hit the auto button and see what happens. If it comes back insufficent rsvs or any other denial reason we input a certain numerical code and is sends a msg to you saying it was denied and the reason. If during my shift I see that a pilot is putting in to drop the same trip over and over again. I will look at a staffing chart to make sure that vips is correctly denying the drop. There have been a few times that I have actually approved it because I did not agree with VIPS.

Hopefully you also know that earlier time stamp just means that someone else put in for the trip before you did.

purpledog

It took my two trades 7hrs to get approved last Friday morning. I don't sit idly by and wait for my originals to get processed, I continue putting in more and more trades just in case. This inefficiency is actually putting more of a burden on the scheduler's since often times my original request or drop is approved and all the subsequent ones are now irrelevant. You would think that some CRS manager would have some influence and would want the same thing we do to take care of his people. An instantaneous and automatic trading system would help both sides.
In this era of kindler and gentler attitudes toward the crew, PAC, new whiz-bang email (that I couldn't care less about), more sleep rooms etc.. This would be a huge measure of good will from the dark side. Can it happen outside of CBA?
9ESOCCFI- thanks for coming on here and shedding light on this process. I didn't realized how much time went into processing a single trade. You all must hate the last Wed/Thurs night in the bid month.

olly

Gunter,

Reading the contract Scheduling-Section 25, Reserve section M I have not found where a pilot could be involuntarily extended for three days.
could point me to the contract reference?
25.M.6
g. To facilitate reserve assignments, CRS may remove 1
R-day from the beginning or end of a subsequently scheduled block of R-days in the same bid period and add that day to the end of a reserve pilot's current block of R-days in order to complete a reserve assignment. No more than 1 R-day per line, per bid period, may be moved without a pilot's approval. A reserve trip must begin on an originally scheduled R- day.

h. A reserve pilot may be offered an assignment scheduled to extend up to 24 hours beyond the end of his block of R-days. The acceptance of such an assignment is at the pilot's option. If the pilot accepts the assignment, the portion of the trip that extended beyond his scheduled block of R-days shall be compensated as provided in Section 4.H.9. (150% calculated like carryover trip), and the pilot's responsibility for his remaining R-days on his reserve line shall continue.