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Old 10-15-2012, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dahlysia
Give scheduling your cell phone number and carry the phone with you. If they need you they will call you. Done this for years without any problems.
Technically not legal according the the CBA. The response I basically received from management today was.....

Please refer to CBA language in 12.B.3.d. YES, you are basically required to be reached in your hotel room for the 11+30 duty period
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Technically not legal according the the CBA. The response I basically received from management today was.....

Please refer to CBA language in 12.B.3.d. YES, you are basically required to be reached in your hotel room for the 11+30 duty period
Hey it's "just culture"
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Originally Posted by PurpleTail
Technically not legal according the the CBA. The response I basically received from management today was.....

Please refer to CBA language in 12.B.3.d. YES, you are basically required to be reached in your hotel room for the 11+30 duty period
can you be more specific. I can find no reference for sitting by the hotel phone in 12.B.3.d.
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
can you be more specific. I can find no reference for sitting by the hotel phone in 12.B.3.d.
How about just the reality of a 1:30 call-out. If you're trying to abide by the actual standby requirements (not advocating that, necessarily), you don't really have a choice. Even somewhere like the Dragon Lakes or NRT Hilton would require some scrambling to make that even if you're by the phone. If you're not, good luck making it. Putting someone on HSBY in KIX (assuming Swisshotel) for a 1:30 call-out is a joke. Most likely just trying to justify the trip revision and the guy will never get used.

I realize the reality of the call-outs isn't always ASAP - I did get one though, while we were still at the CAN Pullman. Woke out of a dead sleep and got the "be in the lobby in 20 minutes" panic call.
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A few weeks ago, I was talking to a Crew Control scheduler. She asked me what my understanding of hotel standby was. I gave her the 1+30 spiel that Adlerdriver listed above. She said she had called a Capt in CDG hotel standby during her previous shift and told him transpo would be at the hotel in 45 min for a departure. The Capt had told her there was no way he could make that, and that the trip would just have to be pushed back. Pretty sure the captain got an IR.
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All good advice. However if sitting stby in CDG it would be just as simple to go to the hotel gym and be just as ready for a callout. Purpletail left me with the impression that management made the claim there was some CBA language telling me I had to sit by the phone in my room. I cant find the particular language and would appreciate a point out.

If I ever pull another tour I already plan on locking my belt and shoe laces in the safe. You guys want to make it even more depressing.
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
All good advice. However if sitting stby in CDG it would be just as simple to go to the hotel gym and be just as ready for a callout. Purpletail left me with the impression that management made the claim there was some CBA language telling me I had to sit by the phone in my room. I cant find the particular language and would appreciate a point out.
Being on Hotel Standby is pretty much no different than being on reserve. It has a 1.5 hr call out (yes being in Osaka is a joke, it takes that long to get to the airport in traffic) and CRS has to be able to get in touch with you somehow, ie. hotel room or cell phone call. Missed call? You have 15 min to call them back or else now you are in violation of the CBA.

So are you confined to your hotel room? Technically no but CRS must have a way to contact you and if contacted you must be packed and ready for picked up in 1+30 time. The likelihood of me getting called out is slim to none but with my luck I'd be "the one"

12.B.3.d.iii does talk about the :45 min notification IF the first leg is a DH by charter or company jumpseat, otherwise it is 1:30 alert.
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12.B.3.d.iii does talk about the :45 min notification IF the first leg is a DH by charter or company jumpseat, otherwise it is 1:30 alert.
But it actually says a minimum of: 1+30 prior to Blockout for notification. That's not the same as a 1+30 "alert."
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But it actually says a minimum of: 1+30 prior to Blockout for notification. That's not the same as a 1+30 "alert."
Obviously, there are many here who assume it is from notification to pickup. This is what disturbed the scheduler I talked to. She gave the guy 45 min to pickup, and he still couldn't make it.
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