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Old 10-06-2012, 05:29 AM
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Which is why public sector unions need to go away completely. They should be made illegal at all levels of government.
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The Teamsters charge 50% dues?
Nah that was the old days and only if you counted what they skimmed out of the pension fund. You are thinking of what the teachers unions take from the taxpayers today. It is a little confusing but private sector unions just dont have the same opportunity for graft that the public sector unions have.
No wasn't thinking anything other than a previous poster was exaggerating things to make his point. I have a family member who was a long time Teamster with a pension from the public sector (not a teacher) do I know what they actually take.
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Originally Posted by appDude
Which is why public sector unions need to go away completely. They should be made illegal at all levels of government.
You are absolutely correct. Continue on...
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Originally Posted by appDude
Which is why public sector unions need to go away completely. They should be made illegal at all levels of government.
+2........
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:13 AM
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These, +1's, not surprising seeing that you guys didn't want other employees in your own company to be able to unionize.
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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR
These, +1's, not surprising seeing that you guys didn't want other employees in your own company to be able to unionize.

Make anything up you like after all it is the internet.

Do we really have to explain the RLA and the NLRA to you again. Here is the bottomline, I hope anyone at FDX that wants to unionize does so. I cant help them.
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Originally Posted by 1800 RVR
These, +1's, not surprising seeing that you guys didn't want other employees in your own company to be able to unionize.
Private company, bro....
Apples and Oranges.
We compete against you guys, the govt employees compete against who, exactly?
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Make anything up you like after all it is the internet.

Do we really have to explain the RLA and the NLRA to you again. Here is the bottomline, I hope anyone at FDX that wants to unionize does so. I cant help them.
The FedEx Corporation

Yes, very interesting read indeed. Fred didn't even want you guys organized...

Railroaded out of Their Rights: How a Labor Law Loophole Prevents FedEx Express Employees from Being Represented by a Union
The FedEx Corporation’s History of Opposing Unionization

FedEx’s effort to keep FedEx Express’ ground transportation employees under the RLA is not– as the FedEx website would have it – a battle between rival package-delivery companies, specifically, FedEx Express and UPS. It is rather a battle between FedEx Express and its own employees, who seek the same opportunity to be represented by a union as counterpart employees at other package-delivery companies. In this regard, the actions taken by FedEx are just the latest in a long history of vigorous resistance to efforts by its employees to unionize:

• As early as 1983, a FedEx booklet titled “Managers Labor Law Book” credits the company’s success in large part to being “union free.”66 On the second page, the booklet declares that the corporate goal is to remain “union free;”

• In 1989, shortly before acquiring Tiger International Airline, many of whose pilots were union members, FedEx’s founder and chief executive officer, Fred Smith, declared: “I don’t intend to recognize any unions at Federal Express;”67

• In 1993, FedEx distributed to its managers a booklet produced by the company’s legal department titled “Keeping the People Philosophy Alive: Making Unions Unnecessary.” The cover letter said, “Enclosed you will find a new guide designed to provide Federal Express managers with basic information about union avoidance and union organizing;”68 and

• As recently as 2006, FedEx’s Human Resource Services and Diversity Organization published a paper calling on human resources staff to “co-develop strategy with Labor Relations team on union avoidance,” and listing five “union avoidance strategies.”69

The Leadership Conference recognizes the right of an employer, including FedEx, to resist unionization by its employees – provided that in doing so, the employer respects the rights of the employees and complies with its own legal obligations. But that has not always been the case with FedEx.

In 1991, for example, the National Mediation Board found that FedEx Express illegally interfered with the representation election for the company’s pilots.70 In another election, the pilots voted for union representation, becoming the only group of FedEx Express’ employees to unionize.71

In 2007, The Leadership Conference issued a report titled “Fed Up with FedEx: How FedEx Ground Tramples Workers Rights and Civil Rights,” which documents how another division of FedEx, FedEx Ground – a shipping company that relies entirely on trucks rather than airplanes, and whose employees are covered by the NLRA – misclassifies approximately 15,000 of its truck drivers as “independent contractors.”72 This misclassification excludes these employees from the coverage of labor, employment, and civil rights laws, including the NLRA, and among other things, denies them the right to form and join unions. Although several courts, federal agencies, and state officials have ruled that these FedEx Ground truck drivers are employees – as one court put it, FedEx Ground’s agreement with its drivers is “a brilliantly drafted contract creating the constraints of an employment relationship …. in the guise of an independent contractor model”73 – FedEx Ground continues to adhere to this policy in most of the nation.

The tactics used by FedEx in its campaign to keep FedEx Express’ ground transportation employees under the RLA – while aggressive and disingenuous – have not to date been unlawful. But the statement made by Sen. Kennedy in the 1996 Congressional debate to restore the special exception for FedEx Express is as apt today as it was then:

Federal Express is notorious for its anti-union ideology, but there is no justification for Congress becoming an accomplice in its union-busting tactic.74
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Originally Posted by Precontact
The FedEx Corporation

Yes, very interesting read indeed. Fred didn't even want you guys organized...

blah blah blah
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What does that have to do with this:

Originally Posted by 1800 RVR
These, +1's, not surprising seeing that you guys didn't want other employees in your own company to be able to unionize.
Again anyone who wants to unionize at FDX Express is welcome to. Just convince a majority of their class and craft. If they asked my opinion I would tell them to go for it. They havent asked.

Why the ground guys dont is beyond me. Should be easy under the NLRA.
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