FDX training pay
10-01-2012, 12:54 AM
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I can't speak for Cologne but I do know that no new hire, or anyone else for that matter, has flown a DP in Hong Kong. We haven't had one for several years. If I remember correctly, the last one we had went to reserves and the dispute was resolved.
10-01-2012, 05:00 AM
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Nah, my limit is 16 letters, so you made it in under the wire...
But, I'll take that bet. I bet that the majority of DPs are picked up by guys that have been here longer than a year. I know that at least 50% are flown by Captains...
I didn't fly DPs when I was a newhire, or since. No matter what the paycheck was. I don't put a price tag on doing the right thing.
Listen, I agree that training pay absolutely sucks. I think the company should foot the bill for a hotel room while these new hires are going through indoc and initial. It needs to get changed, and hopefully it will...
You're the one that started the whole DP conversation...
And what's wrong with answering a draft call, as long as we aren't in 4a2b or contract crunch time?
But, I'll take that bet. I bet that the majority of DPs are picked up by guys that have been here longer than a year. I know that at least 50% are flown by Captains...
I didn't fly DPs when I was a newhire, or since. No matter what the paycheck was. I don't put a price tag on doing the right thing.
Listen, I agree that training pay absolutely sucks. I think the company should foot the bill for a hotel room while these new hires are going through indoc and initial. It needs to get changed, and hopefully it will...
You're the one that started the whole DP conversation...
And what's wrong with answering a draft call, as long as we aren't in 4a2b or contract crunch time?
Did you fly extra when you were a new hire? I didnt fly DPs either but I sure flew extra. All I could.
The DP line was a throw away, I meant extra flying in general. I am certainly sorry if I cast insults on new hires in HKG or CGN my point was we send people over there for abour 60 bucks an hour pay. Just because everyone else does it does not mean we should do it. I thought one of the points of ALPA was to raise the bar. FDX MEC seems very content to raise the ceiling and keep the bar a couple of inches off the floor.
10-01-2012, 07:03 AM
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10-01-2012, 07:43 AM
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10-01-2012, 09:13 AM
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10-01-2012, 10:16 AM
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New hires flying DP's are nothing more than a Red Herring. I see the same names on those pairings far too frequently, and for them, the excuse of being a "new hire" sailed quite a few years ago. There are other words in quotes that would better descibe them.
10-01-2012, 12:16 PM
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Couldnt tell you who flys DP, but I will bet that it is disproportionately new guys.
Maybe you need to do a little more research before you start throwing stones.
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