Will 4a2b be baaaaack!?!?
09-26-2012, 08:08 PM
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In the end, the only thing that will really be on record is that we rolled over, lubed up and agreed to whatever we get.
The other option is to draw a line in the sand and actually fight for what we want - not join the other side just to have a role shaping what we don't want.
One other fairly important point, we're not bankrupt and we're still making a profit. We're just not making as much money as we normally do.
09-27-2012, 05:44 AM
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09-27-2012, 07:01 AM
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Lag. that was my point on the cost per car. Expected sales were discounted and only increased sales were divided by program costs. Your original post blamed the bureaucratic fees as causing the 24k tab per vehicle, bureaucratic fees are more overhead in nature of running the program, sending payments to dealers and paperwork,
Not the theoretical sales increase/program cost analysis which is a market guesstimate. When I traded in my car for the cash I could have held out a while but eventually would have had to buy a new one. Where was my purchase allocated as an increase or an expected purchase. Not too many people buying cars they don't need.
Not the theoretical sales increase/program cost analysis which is a market guesstimate. When I traded in my car for the cash I could have held out a while but eventually would have had to buy a new one. Where was my purchase allocated as an increase or an expected purchase. Not too many people buying cars they don't need.
09-27-2012, 08:55 AM
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But, many traded in their old "gas guzzling polluter" for a new "more enviro friendly" one when their old vehicle was still reliable. Thus, ending up with a car payment they didn't need!
And, the part that sucks about this is - I can no longer find parts for my old farm truck - cuz the old trucks that were traded in had to go to the crusher instead of for used parts sales
And, the part that sucks about this is - I can no longer find parts for my old farm truck - cuz the old trucks that were traded in had to go to the crusher instead of for used parts sales
09-28-2012, 09:18 AM
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But, many traded in their old "gas guzzling polluter" for a new "more enviro friendly" one when their old vehicle was still reliable. Thus, ending up with a car payment they didn't need!
And, the part that sucks about this is - I can no longer find parts for my old farm truck - cuz the old trucks that were traded in had to go to the crusher instead of for used parts sales
And, the part that sucks about this is - I can no longer find parts for my old farm truck - cuz the old trucks that were traded in had to go to the crusher instead of for used parts sales
09-28-2012, 09:35 AM
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09-28-2012, 10:06 AM
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09-28-2012, 10:08 AM
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Oh the "auto dismantle yards" (can't call them wrecking yards anymore) did ok. They got the vehicle free and could sell any parts, except the engine and transmission. After a set period anything that wasn't sold went to the crusher. So now I can go look at rusty parts but the good ones went to be recycled
09-28-2012, 10:20 AM
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Parts could be recycled - check this link 'Cash for clunkers': What happens to the old cars - CSMonitor.com
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