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Old 08-26-2012, 06:21 AM
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There are a growing number of people calendar blocking as a result of the open time shadowers continuing their whining campaign. This whining now permeates LEC meetings. I have no hope anymore that the sophomoric crying will going away. They are persistant and have dark intentions.

Continue the old school distate for blockers as you find more and more to wrinkle your nose at. Ask away and share your opinion to your hearts content, it won't change a thing.
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Originally Posted by Gunter
There are a growing number of people calendar blocking as a result of the open time shadowers continuing their whining campaign. This whining now permeates LEC meetings. I have no hope anymore that's going away. They are persistant and have dark intentions.

Continue the old school distate for blockers as you find more and more to wrinkly your nose at. Ask away and share your opinion to your hearts content, it won't change a thing.
Thanks. I'm not looking for change.
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Originally Posted by subicpilot
Why would you hide your schedule unless you were hiding something? I'm just trying to understand the motive.
I do recognize that there are some constructive benefits to viewing other schedules, I acknowledge that fact. That is not how a growing number of pilots are using this function. But, I absolutely love the "you must be guilty of something if you are hiding your schedule", thought process. It is so precious. Now WHO is painting with broad brush strokes again? It just isn't me (please reference your last rant). Let me break it down for you. I can't speak for everyone else but why would I hide my schedule? Just to hack you off. No dark ulterior motive, just pure aggravation. Get it now?
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I do recognize that there are some constructive benefits to viewing other schedules, I acknowledge that fact. That is not how a growing number of pilots are using this function. But, I absolutely love the "you must be guilty of something if you are hiding your schedule", thought process. It is so precious. Now WHO is painting with broad brush strokes again? It just isn't me (please reference your last rant). Let me break it down for you. I can't speak for everyone else but why would I hide my schedule? Just to hack you off. No dark ulterior motive, just pure aggravation. Get it now?
Hiding your schedule doesn't hack me off at all. It's meaningless.

You've made it clear why you'd hide your schedule, even though you started this whole discussion by saying you don't care. Finally. An answer to my question. Thank you.

Definition: A stereotype is “...a fixed, over generalized belief about a particular group or class of people.” Right or wrong, a negative stereotype exists for calendar blockers, and that stereotype is that if your hiding something, you must be hiding something. As I stated earlier, I was hoping to gain insight into this by asking why. What does one have to gain by hiding their schedule? I stated I was a proponent of open schedules, but also acknowledged the right to choose. I am not attacking those who choose to block. I'm just asking why.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by subicpilot
Hiding your schedule doesn't hack me off at all. It's meaningless.

You've made it clear why you'd hide your schedule, even though you started this whole discussion by saying you don't care. Finally. An answer to my question. Thank you.

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If able, before every trip I look at the other crewmember's calendar. It tells me quickly if (a) they've recently been where we're going, (b) whether they're turning in to the trip or fresh and (c) who they've been flying with. I contend that both (a) & (b) help me be more aware of what my assets are and (c) could just lead to some good stories. I also 'stalk' the maintenance records ahead of time if I'm able...

Not anecdotely, but factually, every single calendar blocker I've flown with has had something they would not want fellow pilots to know about. Most commonly, it's DP flying, but there have been a few other jewels like picking up FedEx trips while they are on Military orders (never told the company they were doing mil leave) among some other egregious/illegal things.

I will try to trip trade occasionally and to PDO trips. Calendar blocking effectively blocks me from doing so. Again, like Subic asked at the start of this thread, why would you want to prevent a fellow ALPA pilot from being able to do any of the above things unless you were hiding something? Please don't say "it's my right" or I'll puke. It's also your "right" to be a scumball and pick up DPs and to fly your butt off in 4A2b... Either you're in the club or your a lone wolf, it can't be both.
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Originally Posted by av8rmike

Not anecdotely, but factually, every single calendar blocker I've flown with has had something they would not want fellow pilots to know about. Most commonly, it's DP flying, but there have been a few other jewels like picking up FedEx trips while they are on Military orders (never told the company they were doing mil leave) among some other egregious/illegal things.
Winner! Winner! Chicken dinner! (with caveats...)

Most of us 'angry men' on this forum are just 'angry' and not prone to less-than-legal activities, company related or otherwise.
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:58 AM
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I will try to trip trade occasionally and to PDO trips. Calendar blocking effectively blocks me from doing so.

Again, like Subic asked at the start of this thread, why would you want to prevent a fellow ALPA pilot from being able to do any of the above things unless you were hiding something?
Question: How does a blocked calendar prevent someone from PDO bumping a trip? How does a blocked calendar prevent you (or anyone) from trip trading?

The way I see it - if you want to PDO bump a certain trip - you bump it - why does it matter who is currently assigned said trip? or whether they block their calendar or not?

What step in the trip trade process requires you to view anyone's calendar? If you want to trade for a specific trip, you view the trip (which can't be blocked) and contact the trip owner for trade.

What am I missing?
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
Continue the old school distate for blockers as you find more and more to wrinkle your nose at. Ask away and share your opinion to your hearts content, it won't change a thing.
It is not that I dislike calendar blockers, it is that in my experience when looking up a guys schedule I am flying with, usually if their calendar is blocked, they have some kind of stigma attached. They have in general been non-members, disputed flyers or one of our famous guys that fall in the 3 % category. I don't dislike them because of their calendar status, I dislike them because usually they are unlikeable.
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by subicpilot
I was shown years ago in about 10 minutes how to find out what any pilot is doing in a given month. It doesn't require much effort or time.
please briefly outline the necessary steps for us - thanks.

Originally Posted by subicpilot
If my life is being negatively impacted through the inappropriate behavior of other pilots, I would certainly want to know about it. Ninety-five percent of the time, I don't need to or want to look...I only look when there is a specific reason to do so. If my first look turns up a calendar blocker, naturally, my suspicions rise and I look deeper to see if I can find an answer to my question or problem...which is why I started to look in the first place. And I agree with you...Karma eventually catches up with everyone.
please define "inappropriate behavior" in the context you are using it here for your argument - thanks.
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