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Old 08-18-2012, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Huck
(sigh) ... Tell him to go ahead and bid the triple. It's inevitable.


Why you gotta do me like that???
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan
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Voice memo/record option on phone ready to go for the first tirade.

Get it on "tape" and once he's calmed down start playing it out loud. Tell him the next time you "over step", you'll just re-play it so he won't have to go through it all again.

You could also mention that you'll be sharing his debrief techniques with Pro-stan at your earliest opportunity.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:14 PM
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Set him up. Make your radio call/ACARS/etc (preferably towards the end of a particular leg). After his rant, pull the voice recorder CB and open the cockpit door - i.e. to prevent physical violence. Call professional standards and the chief pilot - this is workplace harassment. You don't have to put up with it! (or you could use your cell phone in voicemail/memo mode).
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:33 PM
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You could just include the story and his name in the comments section of management's survey.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Approach this captain VERY slowly. Do what you can to appear as small as possible and hopefully less intimidating. But, remember to stay attentive. Do not get down on your hands and knees, it will make it harder for you to get away if the Captain decides to attack. Only come within 10-15 feet of the him in the crew room. That is, until showtime. Then, call to him in a soothing voice and try to get him to come to you. Put out your hand, gently pat the ground, you can also toss the captain food. But, throw the food to the side and not directly at him.

Avoid prolonged eye contact. Look to one side of the captain, rather than staring him down. Most Captains consider this to be a sign of domination. They interpret it as a kind of challenge and it can cause the captain to think you want to fight.

Good luck.
This needs to be in every FOs flight kit.

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Old 08-18-2012, 03:52 PM
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What company was that? Wow, crm advice sourced from APC......look how far we have come as an industry....eish....
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:05 PM
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Notice that the majority of comments are from First Officers. Captains are professional enough to not talk negatively about people they fly with. You can't really say that about the First Officers hired over the years. Even the abbreviations and structure of the title of this thread leads one to believe that we aren't dealing with a very professional group of aviators!
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Worldguy
What company was that? Wow, crm advice sourced from APC......look how far we have come as an industry....eish....
Sounds like the one I USED to work for. Thank God I got out of there! Don't need / want that BS in my life.
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by You Are
Notice that the majority of comments are from First Officers. Captains are professional enough to not talk negatively about people they fly with. You can't really say that about the First Officers hired over the years. Even the abbreviations and structure of the title of this thread leads one to believe that we aren't dealing with a very professional group of aviators!
Really? Oh, that's right. Nevermind...
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by You Are
Notice that the majority of comments are from First Officers. Captains are professional enough to not talk negatively about people they fly with. You can't really say that about the First Officers hired over the years. Even the abbreviations and structure of the title of this thread leads one to believe that we aren't dealing with a very professional group of aviators!
Problem is most of those "professional captains" you speak so highly of have forgotten what it was like to be an FO.
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