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Old 07-19-2012, 09:14 AM
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I am not sure how smart it is, that during negotiations we got guys coming on here and bragging about how little they work, how many days off they have in a given bid period, how much they are getting paid for the work that they don't do. How about showing a little SA folks.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:23 AM
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I am not sure how smart it is, that during negotiations we got guys coming on here and bragging about how little they work, how many days off they have in a given bid period, how much they are getting paid for the work that they don't do. How about showing a little SA folks.
No 'dog in the fight' in this thread here, but my line of thinking is, it doesn't matter how little a reserve has been called in recently if a million dollars of freight needs to be moved and there's nobody else to do it on time.

Spare tires on cars don't go 15,000 miles a year like the other tires. But when you need 'em, . . .
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaggy1970
I am not sure how smart it is, that during negotiations we got guys coming on here and bragging about how little they work, how many days off they have in a given bid period, how much they are getting paid for the work that they don't do. How about showing a little SA folks.
Nice sentiment, but do you understand that they have a complete statistical picture that has been sliced and diced a hundred ways?
Do you think any of this escapes their scrutiny? It doesn't matter what anyone says, they have more numbers on this than most of us can imagine.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:51 AM
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The company already knows this and if they don't I'm sure Andy Murphy will make a slide or 2 on it and give it to the company to use against us.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:05 AM
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Nice sentiment, but do you understand that they have a complete statistical picture that has been sliced and diced a hundred ways?
Do you think any of this escapes their scrutiny? It doesn't matter what anyone says, they have more numbers on this than most of us can imagine.
No $hit Sherlock. Just saying, this isn't the place to be gloating about this kind of crap.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:06 AM
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The company already knows this and if they don't I'm sure Andy Murphy will make a slide or 2 on it and give it to the company to use against us.
I got to admit, this was pretty funny. Just so you know, Andy doesn't make slides that the EB doesn't ask for. Don't blame Andy, is all I am saying.
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Old 07-19-2012, 12:46 PM
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No $hit Sherlock. Just saying, this isn't the place to be gloating about this kind of crap.
I'm not sure it's gloating. There's so much anti-UPS rhetoric on this forum, it's hard not to sing praises to the few good aspects of this job.

To answer the original question:

I am one of the most junior ANC MD11 capts. I have held the last or second to last lines in my seat for the last year and a half. They are almost always VTO lines and there are usually pretty crappy for commuting. I've noticed that the bottom FO is almost always a VTO line. I think it's safe to say my schedule would closely align with a new hire's if they were assigned the MD11 in ANC. I think it's quite different on the 747 in ANC.

Anyway, in the last year, I have averaged 13.5 days away from home including commuting from the Midwest. My worst pay period was 18 days and my best was 2 days (vacation). This is out of a 28 day pay period. It is a challenge to say the least but it is manageable. It would be amazing if you chose to live in domicile.

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Old 07-19-2012, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker4Life
I'm not sure it's gloating. There's so much anti-UPS rhetoric on this forum, it's hard not to sing praises to the few good aspects of this job.

To answer the original question:

I am one of the most junior ANC MD11 capts. I have held the last or second to last lines in my seat for the last year and a half. They are almost always VTO lines and there are usually pretty crappy for commuting. I've noticed that the bottom FO is almost always a VTO line. I think it's safe to say my schedule would closely align with a new hire's if they were assigned the MD11 in ANC. I think it's quite different on the 747 in ANC.

Anyway, in the last year, I have averaged 13.5 days away from home including commuting from the Midwest. My worst pay period was 18 days and my best was 2 days (vacation). This is out of a 28 day pay period. It is a challenge to say the least but it is manageable. It would be amazing if you chose to live in domicile.
Good post, the key to a happy life may well be living in domicile.

There is no doubt that pilots are getting more productivity squeezed out of them over time. Some may find this unpleasant, but it may be essential to their long term survival.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:32 PM
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Speaking as a guy who would love to live in ANC again I'd just bid RSV all the time so some commuter doesn't have to. Anyone want to write me a recommendation?

Here's hoping UPS will see the light and hire turboprop trash when the time comes. I'll make sure and highlight my ANC address and 907 numbering my cover letter.
Nice try, but the last turboprop driver that we hired was in 2005....and that was a girl (commutair, I believe). So, I think that you are gonna need 121 time or at least turbojet pic.
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Old 07-19-2012, 02:56 PM
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121 experience unless you are female, minority or want to go into management, then C-172 time will probably work!
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