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Old 07-05-2012, 03:55 PM
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What did it look like last time Atlas was hiring FO's on minimum qualifications? I think it was a couple years back.

Would a couple thousand hours PIC Saab 340 be something that Atlas would look at?

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What did it look like last time Atlas was hiring FO's on minimum qualifications? I think it was a couple years back.

Would a couple thousand hours PIC Saab 340 be something that Atlas would look at?

Planning ahead. Thanks gents!
we were hiring until early this year, when the 747 Classics retired. Classes are being filled from the pool. Hopefully hiring in the near future.

Classmate of mine was a Saab driver, another flew the Q400, didn't have turbojet time. So, yes, they'll look at you.

Check out the Atlas thread under Hiring News and read it front to back and you'll have a very clear idea of whether or not you'd like it here. Good luck!
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we were hiring until early this year, when the 747 Classics retired. Classes are being filled from the pool. Hopefully hiring in the near future.

Classmate of mine was a Saab driver, another flew the Q400, didn't have turbojet time. So, yes, they'll look at you.

Check out the Atlas thread under Hiring News and read it front to back and you'll have a very clear idea of whether or not you'd like it here. Good luck!
Ah! Thanks for the info and additional lead.
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Minimums were 2000 TotalTime, 500 Turbine TotalTime (no jet, no PIC needed). Atlas did hire some FOs straight out of RJs with no PIC turbine, from what I heard.

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It would help if you have something to make you standout, such as check airman experience.

Atlas has hired commuter dogs (I am one), and they seem to do as well as any other group. But there is pushback from certain people in the training center, due IMO to reasons that have nothing to do with airmanship and everything to do with ego. So who knows what the next hiring cycle will bring.

But if management is smart they will do what they did this last time -- hire from a mix of backgrounds. Everyone brings something to the table, and we each learn the most from those who are not like ourselves.
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Atlas did hire some FOs straight out of RJs with no PIC turbine, from what I heard.
Yes, they did. Half of my interview group and half of my new-hire class were RJ guys. The majority were captains, but I know several FOs that've been hired (myself included, although I was a captain briefly on the RJ).

I figured I had no chance at the interview. I was sitting between a Classic F/O and a U-2 pilot, and on paper, I was the least qualified guy in the room. From that group at least, they passed on a military guy, a cargo guy, and 3 RJ captains. Prior experience may help you get an interview, but it won't get you the job.
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...U-2 pilot...
You mean an "Angel" spy-plane pilot?? Wow. Bet he's got some good stories.

At risk of making this thread live longer than it should, I was reading that Atlas Air Hiring thread, but one thing alluded me. What are your time on/time off splits like. I mean, I saw one guy say, "If you can't handle being away from home for 21 days, don't apply."

Yeah, but that's followed by almost an equal amount of time off, no?
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most months I suspect are 17 on... 13/14 off........ymmv
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Per the contract you must have 5 days in a row off unless your flying starts or ends in the first or last 5 days of the bid.

I've been seeing a bunch of 60 day lines where you go to work 3 times during two months. They allow the company to have coverage over the end of the first month and you owe them 34 days during that period. You'd think something like 11, 11 and 12 but I've seen 17, 13 and 4.
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It depends on what you want, what base you're in. On the 767, there are lines with full 17-day patterns, while others might begin/end with a few days of home reserve. One month, I bid reserve and only worked 12 days, but of course working 17 days pays a lot more.
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