VTO construction-after release
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VTO construction-after release
VTO's were finalized 1700 LBT 27 jun. Checked my calender, and Block display. sched looked great- one long trip w carryover into aug. Looked at it several times over the past several days to export the calendar, set up jumpseats etc
loged on vips today, and noticed that as of today 01jul, 3 days after the vto's are "finalized" they have added several R days starting on tues 03jul.
My trip had carryover- and it would appear that the reason for the addition is to get the blg value for the jul bid period.
However, they did it after the finalization, and added the R days, today the 1st . If I had gone off the fdx vips grid until showtime of my line as "finalized" on the 27th, I never would have known about the addition.
Plan to call contract enforcement monday, but anyone know how this could be legal- adding events to a vto- After the finalization time?
loged on vips today, and noticed that as of today 01jul, 3 days after the vto's are "finalized" they have added several R days starting on tues 03jul.
My trip had carryover- and it would appear that the reason for the addition is to get the blg value for the jul bid period.
However, they did it after the finalization, and added the R days, today the 1st . If I had gone off the fdx vips grid until showtime of my line as "finalized" on the 27th, I never would have known about the addition.
Plan to call contract enforcement monday, but anyone know how this could be legal- adding events to a vto- After the finalization time?
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VTO's were finalized 1700 LBT 27 jun. Checked my calender, and Block display. sched looked great- one long trip w carryover into aug. Looked at it several times over the past several days to export the calendar, set up jumpseats etc
loged on vips today, and noticed that as of today 01jul, 3 days after the vto's are "finalized" they have added several R days starting on tues 03jul.
My trip had carryover- and it would appear that the reason for the addition is to get the blg value for the jul bid period.
However, they did it after the finalization, and added the R days, today the 1st . If I had gone off the fdx vips grid until showtime of my line as "finalized" on the 27th, I never would have known about the addition.
Plan to call contract enforcement monday, but anyone know how this could be legal- adding events to a vto- After the finalization time?
loged on vips today, and noticed that as of today 01jul, 3 days after the vto's are "finalized" they have added several R days starting on tues 03jul.
My trip had carryover- and it would appear that the reason for the addition is to get the blg value for the jul bid period.
However, they did it after the finalization, and added the R days, today the 1st . If I had gone off the fdx vips grid until showtime of my line as "finalized" on the 27th, I never would have known about the addition.
Plan to call contract enforcement monday, but anyone know how this could be legal- adding events to a vto- After the finalization time?
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Dt contacted labor relations, company had IT records of the r days being added to my line prior to vto finalization deadline. I have no proof, screenshots, or printouts other than a few txt msg s complimenting my vto. Taking my word that I checked not only my calendar
But, next activity, future activities & block display every day, DT suspects that there may be some interoperability IT issue between VIPS, and the system futures uses, and is opening an investigation. It is a potential issue for both the company & Alpa if the company believes they've made an assignment, and the pilot has no knowledge of said assig ghent. In my case, I could have noted my vto s next activity and not log into Vips again until showtime. A no show for the phantom assignment would be the pilots fault, and the company may have a reliability issue, bad for both. But if there is an IT problem, the burden of proof will be on the pilot, as this situation had revealed that the company "has"proof that they made a legal assignment.
But, next activity, future activities & block display every day, DT suspects that there may be some interoperability IT issue between VIPS, and the system futures uses, and is opening an investigation. It is a potential issue for both the company & Alpa if the company believes they've made an assignment, and the pilot has no knowledge of said assig ghent. In my case, I could have noted my vto s next activity and not log into Vips again until showtime. A no show for the phantom assignment would be the pilots fault, and the company may have a reliability issue, bad for both. But if there is an IT problem, the burden of proof will be on the pilot, as this situation had revealed that the company "has"proof that they made a legal assignment.
Last edited by olly; 07-02-2012 at 06:59 PM. Reason: spelling
#7
Screenshots don't cost a lot of computer storage space, and it's a good idea to take them often and save them in your "Pearl Harbor" file. Trip revisions, crew notifications, anything that seems strange, FCIFs that will later become vaporware, whatever you're looking at when you decide to call crew scheds... you get the idea.
#8
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Did you expect anything different? The company will ALWAYS have IT records to support it's position. After all, it owns the computers and the programmers.
Screenshots don't cost a lot of computer storage space, and it's a good idea to take them often and save them in your "Pearl Harbor" file. Trip revisions, crew notifications, anything that seems strange, FCIFs that will later become vaporware, whatever you're looking at when you decide to call crew scheds... you get the idea.
Screenshots don't cost a lot of computer storage space, and it's a good idea to take them often and save them in your "Pearl Harbor" file. Trip revisions, crew notifications, anything that seems strange, FCIFs that will later become vaporware, whatever you're looking at when you decide to call crew scheds... you get the idea.
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#10
And for FxCal users, remember the iOS screen shot capture technique: momentarily press the Home/Menu button and the Sleep/Wake(On/Off) button at the same time. Great way to keep a record of all company communications.
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