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Old 06-20-2012, 06:43 PM
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Looks to me like they just stopped flying the airplane after the right main hit the ground the first time. Probably had it in their heads that a proper bounced landing go around would lead to more misery in the bad conditions airborne. Some LUCKY SOBs to not kill themselves and everyone else on board.

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Old 06-20-2012, 07:50 PM
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Ok, I have to say it:

"Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it."
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They did not unload it. Make no mistake. if you do what they did to the MD-11s that broke, any Boeing and any Airbus (or Lockheed, etc) would also break.
Right....Because we've all seen the photos and clips of all the Boeings, and Airbuses(or Lockheeds, etc.) breaking their wings off when they unloaded it.
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Wasn't as simple as that. Landed at NRT around the same time. Probably just before the aircraft concerned.
Winds observed at 1000 ft agl were 240/58-72 kts, dropping down to 230/48 kts steady at 500 ft. And then there was a +/- 15 kts WS reported. On my observation it was more like +/- 20 kts windshear!
And the turbulence was huge. Moderate to moderate/severe turbulence REPORTED by 4 airplane before me from 500 ft to touchdown. I observed Moderate/Severe all the way down from 500 ft to touchdown.
And BTW the winds reported on ground were 220 to 250 at 28 gusting 44 kts. That's a direct crosswind for the runway in use-16R.
And the winds were spot on!
Airport should have been temporarily closed.

Um... why the crap did this guy continue the approach?
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrosier
Ok, I have to say it:

"Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it."
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:22 PM
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Old 06-20-2012, 08:23 PM
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The conditions weren't as bad as that individual posted on PPRUNE, we had several flights come into NRT around the time of the accident including a couple of freighter flights, it was gusting +/- 10 to 15KTS but basically another summer day in NRT, it gets pretty unstable landing on 16R, specially when the wind is comming from the southeast, but not something we haven't seen before, not saying that the weather didn't have anything to do with it, all of you that operate in and out of NRT know how bad it can get, it is just that the poster made it sound as if it was irresponsible to start the approach to begin with, and that was not the case.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Right....Because we've all seen the photos and clips of all the Boeings, and Airbuses(or Lockheeds, etc.) breaking their wings off when they unloaded it.
Show me the FDR where that has happened to the same extent?
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Originally Posted by ptarmigan
Show me the FDR where that has happened to the same extent?
FDR's from airplanes that wings don't break off on hard landings?
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:24 AM
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Unloaded to the same extent.
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