Cautious words from Mr. Smith...
06-23-2012, 04:37 AM
#31
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And I might as well add the obvious - significant reductions in Full Time Employees through attrition and some sort of incentivized early retirement (not to include pilots). R&I will be targeted too.
CapEx seems steady moving forward at just under 4B (1/2 of that for fleet acquisitions).
"May you live in interesting times."
CapEx seems steady moving forward at just under 4B (1/2 of that for fleet acquisitions).
"May you live in interesting times."
06-23-2012, 06:22 AM
#32
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Every one of us needs to have the ability to do 3 to 6 months with no income at the drop of a hat.
Every one of us needs to have the budget of the pay level below them, i.e. if you're a wide body F/O you need to have the budget of a narrow body F/O.
Every one of us needs some source of outside income, either a working spouse or a second career.
I consider those just the bare minimum, by the way. Ideally you should be much much more conservative. Blows me away, the number of guys who are living paycheck to paycheck.
Every one of us needs to have the budget of the pay level below them, i.e. if you're a wide body F/O you need to have the budget of a narrow body F/O.
Every one of us needs some source of outside income, either a working spouse or a second career.
I consider those just the bare minimum, by the way. Ideally you should be much much more conservative. Blows me away, the number of guys who are living paycheck to paycheck.
06-23-2012, 09:39 AM
#33
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Can one of you who keeps beating the dead horse of "giving away any and all leverage" please do us all a favor?
Please list, specifically, what you believe the company would have offered us (our negotiators) in exchange for the CGN FDA if we had "held out" and not just "given away" that leverage.
Please list, specifically, what you believe the company would have offered us (our negotiators) in exchange for the CGN FDA if we had "held out" and not just "given away" that leverage.
The company would not have "offered" us anything! We need to ask for it. The negotiating committee has a long list of things we want.
MEM ddh Europe trips scheduled to domestic parameters
Mini RLG against your sick bank
777 exempted from 4a2b line spread requirements
just to name a few
06-23-2012, 09:43 AM
#34
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Every one of us needs to have the ability to do 3 to 6 months with no income at the drop of a hat.
Every one of us needs to have the budget of the pay level below them, i.e. if you're a wide body F/O you need to have the budget of a narrow body F/O.
Every one of us needs some source of outside income, either a working spouse or a second career.
I consider those just the bare minimum, by the way. Ideally you should be much much more conservative. Blows me away, the number of guys who are living paycheck to paycheck.
Every one of us needs to have the budget of the pay level below them, i.e. if you're a wide body F/O you need to have the budget of a narrow body F/O.
Every one of us needs some source of outside income, either a working spouse or a second career.
I consider those just the bare minimum, by the way. Ideally you should be much much more conservative. Blows me away, the number of guys who are living paycheck to paycheck.
06-23-2012, 10:07 AM
#35
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06-23-2012, 10:15 AM
#36
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I'm pretty sure that's how it works, I'm sure somebody will correct me otherwise.
06-23-2012, 10:43 AM
#37
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If you work at least one R day in that month, then your sick bank will only be deducted if you are assigned a trip. But let say you are sick the whole month and don't work a single R day, your sick bank will have RLG deducted from it.
I'm pretty sure that's how it works, I'm sure somebody will correct me otherwise.
I'm pretty sure that's how it works, I'm sure somebody will correct me otherwise.
As you said, that's how I think it works, and if not, I'm sure someone will correct me.
06-23-2012, 11:02 AM
#38
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[QUOTE=MaxKts;1217493]
MEM ddh Europe trips scheduled to domestic parameters
already allowed before this CBA
Mini RLG against your sick bank
i believe also was the way it previously worked and was just added to CBA for clarity, either way is that not fair?
777 exempted from 4a2b line spread requirements
not anymore...
MEM ddh Europe trips scheduled to domestic parameters
already allowed before this CBA
Mini RLG against your sick bank
i believe also was the way it previously worked and was just added to CBA for clarity, either way is that not fair?
777 exempted from 4a2b line spread requirements
not anymore...
06-23-2012, 11:05 AM
#39
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That is how it works if you get a reserve line. The mini RLG issue is if you get a line(custom or VTO) with both r-days and trips on it, if your sick for a whole section of r-days, your sick bank will get deducted for the value of those r-days.
As you said, that's how I think it works, and if not, I'm sure someone will correct me.
As you said, that's how I think it works, and if not, I'm sure someone will correct me.
06-23-2012, 12:22 PM
#40
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MEM ddh Europe trips scheduled to domestic parameters
already allowed before this CBA
only for FDA and SIBA, 757 didn't do SIBA and Europe SIBA has gone away for Airbus
Mini RLG against your sick bank
i believe also was the way it previously worked and was just added to CBA for clarity,
only applied to vacation and reserve (due to failed greivance) now to custom lines as well (and we do not own the definition of "mini RLG")
either way is that not fair?
You tell me when your custom line has one 6 hour trip and 3 blocks of reserve. is each block a mini RLG or do all 3 blocks together constitute a mini RLG?
777 exempted from 4a2b line spread requirements
not anymore...
but still a concession
One last thing - All these questions about being out sick for an entire RLG or mini RLG make me wonder how many people have actually read the CBA or LOA before they voted or were they just taking the recommendation from the head shed
already allowed before this CBA
only for FDA and SIBA, 757 didn't do SIBA and Europe SIBA has gone away for Airbus
Mini RLG against your sick bank
i believe also was the way it previously worked and was just added to CBA for clarity,
only applied to vacation and reserve (due to failed greivance) now to custom lines as well (and we do not own the definition of "mini RLG")
either way is that not fair?
You tell me when your custom line has one 6 hour trip and 3 blocks of reserve. is each block a mini RLG or do all 3 blocks together constitute a mini RLG?
777 exempted from 4a2b line spread requirements
not anymore...
but still a concession
One last thing - All these questions about being out sick for an entire RLG or mini RLG make me wonder how many people have actually read the CBA or LOA before they voted or were they just taking the recommendation from the head shed
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