Posting 12-01 final results
06-14-2012, 06:51 AM
#32
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,931
When things suck real bad you can't give it to anyone but a newhire.
Widebody seats with the most newhires suck the most.
We all wish things didn't suck as much as they do.
06-14-2012, 06:59 AM
#33
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 767 Captain
Posts: 3,989
MG2, a little sensitive? I'm sincerely interested in why an FO who bids this or gets hired into this seat is suddenly a "tool", or has a better chance to get the seat if he/she is a "tool".
Stirring the pot? Nope. I think it's absurd that because of a few, a whole segment of our 'group' is referred to negatively...at least that's the way it seems.
And I counter your mad face with this:
Stirring the pot? Nope. I think it's absurd that because of a few, a whole segment of our 'group' is referred to negatively...at least that's the way it seems.
And I counter your mad face with this:
If I put a flower next to the screwdriver my toolbox, I don't stop calling it a toolbox.
06-14-2012, 08:14 AM
#34
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 108
Conventional thoughts about the 777 from my northern tier crew base was the perception that a large number of less-than-desirable-to-fly-with crew members (aka "Tools") congregated on the 777. Thus the heavy concentration of "tools" in one place (aka "Tool Box").
Perception sometimes is reality.
Perception sometimes is reality.
06-14-2012, 11:37 AM
#38
Ok, No more sleeping Dog
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: MD-11, F/O
Posts: 889
I believe what we are witnessing is a sea change in culture. When we acquired the 777 it initially attracted quite a few very senior folks who hadn't been (if ever) OUTCONUS in a very long time. Consequently quite a few gaffes were made by said group resulting in humorous helmet fires in the left seat. In addition this same cadre came from an era when they did pretty much as they pleased, FAR's, CRM and Jumpseaters not withstanding for a very long time. Now, with these "Gents" fairly concentrated in their seat, a reputation, event by event has emerged. It didn't happen in a vacume, nor was it "made up". As previously posted, it is just being illuminated in one concentrated area, with the hope of changing, via peer pressure, a wrong culture.
06-14-2012, 12:28 PM
#39
Slaving away
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Gear Mover
Posts: 433
06-14-2012, 02:32 PM
#40
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Couch Potato
Posts: 470
I believe what we are witnessing is a sea change in culture. When we acquired the 777 it initially attracted quite a few very senior folks who hadn't been (if ever) OUTCONUS in a very long time. Consequently quite a few gaffes were made by said group resulting in humorous helmet fires in the left seat. In addition this same cadre came from an era when they did pretty much as they pleased, FAR's, CRM and Jumpseaters not withstanding for a very long time. Now, with these "Gents" fairly concentrated in their seat, a reputation, event by event has emerged. It didn't happen in a vacume, nor was it "made up". As previously posted, it is just being illuminated in one concentrated area, with the hope of changing, via peer pressure, a wrong culture.
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