More HKG Housing "Grey Area"
06-07-2012, 08:32 AM
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HK , it would be real interesting to compare our FDA with another ALPA carrier FDA , just to see if there is a diffference between the passenger ALPA guys and the cargo ALPA guys ......... Just to check our six on this , I would hope that cargo ALPA pilots are not getting screwed by this ............
06-07-2012, 09:14 AM
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HK , it would be real interesting to compare our FDA with another ALPA carrier FDA , just to see if there is a diffference between the passenger ALPA guys and the cargo ALPA guys ......... Just to check our six on this , I would hope that cargo ALPA pilots are not getting screwed by this ............
06-07-2012, 09:34 AM
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HK , it would be real interesting to compare our FDA with another ALPA carrier FDA , just to see if there is a diffference between the passenger ALPA guys and the cargo ALPA guys ......... Just to check our six on this , I would hope that cargo ALPA pilots are not getting screwed by this ............
I once worked at an ALPA (people carrier) airline that had their equivalent of an FDA. Contract benefits included American Private School for your kids (we sort of got this eventually), the "Space - A" shipment of up to 2 vehicles (we're a cargo airline for "gosh" sakes!), a Foreign Station Allowance (very HA like) and other benefits.
It short ... it was SUCH a good deal that many SENIOR people went there and stayed there forever (there we 727 s/o's that were senior to some of the 727 Capt's stateside!
I made some of these suggestions to my union block reps and NC members. Surprisingly, they didn't really want my input!*?
06-07-2012, 10:16 AM
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answer: ALL Captain vacancies in HKG will be filled
reason: Passover Payback if they don't keep HKG CA on their bid and can't hold WB CA anywhere else yet.
question: how many FedEx pilots on HKG Passover Pay will pull their bid & pay back all previous passover pay in order to take a stand?
answer: unknown given the magnitude of the crisis - but very unlikely that ANY would pull their standing bid knowing they'd have a wad of cash to pay back (IMHO) - discuss
reason: Passover Payback if they don't keep HKG CA on their bid and can't hold WB CA anywhere else yet.
question: how many FedEx pilots on HKG Passover Pay will pull their bid & pay back all previous passover pay in order to take a stand?
answer: unknown given the magnitude of the crisis - but very unlikely that ANY would pull their standing bid knowing they'd have a wad of cash to pay back (IMHO) - discuss
(Never bid something for "passover pay" that you aren't willing to fly. One never knows when the music will stop, and you will have to sit in the chair you've chosen.)
06-07-2012, 12:24 PM
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Don't even think you have to worry about the POP folks. Cursory look at last practice bid shows very few guys bidding HKG CA that are on that POP list-most are brand new guys that actually want the move and job
06-07-2012, 02:30 PM
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curious - is there a "POP list" posted somewhere, or did you keep copies of previous bids for reference?
I'm not on that list, but a couple guys I know are (they are senior enough to hold WB in MEM now though, so n/a for them)
06-07-2012, 02:56 PM
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Bottomline it was a good bet.
06-07-2012, 03:58 PM
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Yeah, first time I have gotten it to work also, after many attempts with different links. Good video. Seems to me, Fedex is going to have a lot of 'splaining to do when this is all said and done. I just have a feeling that it's not all cut and dried, as JB is stating in his letter.
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