Another denied 777 Jumpseat
01-05-2013, 09:58 PM
#102
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Hey - just a thought - but is it possible that the FDX guy requesting the jumpseat might have been on "The List"? or in "The Book"? or a non-member? or a guy who has denied others the jumpseat in the past?
Answer - yes. It is possible (not likely in this case, but possible) - talk about bad form - a guy on one of those lists having the audacity to even ask for a jumpseat (hint - happens all the time at FDX)
Don't we still have pilots at FDX that are on "The List"? non-members? etc....
(I'm not saying this HKG pilot is on any of these lists, most likely not - my comments are just "in general" here at FedEx)
It has been my experience since I've been here that not too many of our pilots even bother to check any of these lists - or care whether the other pilot is "on the team" or not.
Might help our unity if more people cared enough to check & hold folks accountable for THEIR choices/actions.
Funny how long this thread is and no one has even mentioned this as a possible reason to have been denied the jumpseat.
Answer - yes. It is possible (not likely in this case, but possible) - talk about bad form - a guy on one of those lists having the audacity to even ask for a jumpseat (hint - happens all the time at FDX)
Don't we still have pilots at FDX that are on "The List"? non-members? etc....
(I'm not saying this HKG pilot is on any of these lists, most likely not - my comments are just "in general" here at FedEx)
It has been my experience since I've been here that not too many of our pilots even bother to check any of these lists - or care whether the other pilot is "on the team" or not.
Might help our unity if more people cared enough to check & hold folks accountable for THEIR choices/actions.
Funny how long this thread is and no one has even mentioned this as a possible reason to have been denied the jumpseat.
....fear not comrade, I keep a little black book with names in it.
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01-16-2013, 06:01 PM
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Facts are Incorrect
01-16-2013, 06:25 PM
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Speaking of Beatings
Then realizing there are NO seats left, he then yells, "Hey I'm operating this afternoon, what do you mean there are no seats?!?" He then smoozes the operating Capt (his buddy) and then the operating Capt kicks one of the other jumpers off the flight, who was holding a jumpseat pass in his hand."
Yes, I have seen a jumpseat beating before.
01-16-2013, 08:19 PM
#106
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100% false. I jumped from hkg-MEM and two of the pilots never got in the bunk. In fact, some guys prefer the chairs and sleep better there. Btw, the crew was more than accommodating.
01-17-2013, 03:21 AM
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I saw a large Capt show up twenty, thats 2 0 minutes, late to showtime with no reservation. He immediately bellows, "Hey, Bill I would have called you last night for a jumpseat but I was too drunk", across the AOC where everyone concerned can hear.
Then realizing there are NO seats left, he then yells, "Hey I'm operating this afternoon, what do you mean there are no seats?!?" He then smoozes the operating Capt (his buddy) and then the operating Capt kicks one of the other jumpers off the flight, who was holding a jumpseat pass in his hand."
Yes, I have seen a jumpseat beating before.
Then realizing there are NO seats left, he then yells, "Hey I'm operating this afternoon, what do you mean there are no seats?!?" He then smoozes the operating Capt (his buddy) and then the operating Capt kicks one of the other jumpers off the flight, who was holding a jumpseat pass in his hand."
Yes, I have seen a jumpseat beating before.
And what did he mean, "I'm operating this afternoon" if he's already at the AOC?
01-18-2013, 07:37 AM
#108
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Good comes with bad.With respect to listing, Some Carriers use DOH as Jump-seat priority. Some Carriers it is first come first serve.
I have also seen Some Captains say ALPA Date of hire, if there are more jump-seat riders than seats. Most Carriers give their own Pilots Priority over offline. Ultimately it is the Captain who decides who rides his Airplane.
06-30-2013, 07:47 PM
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