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Old 10-26-2006, 03:58 PM
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Hi all I'm currently in flight training. One of my career aspirations is to one day fly for UPS. However my uncle is a captain on the DC-8. I was told that being related to him means that I cannot work for them. Can someone explain this to me?
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Last I heard from the Human Remains folks, the limit was first cousin (wife in KY). I think uncle is outta there. Thank your uncle. Try FedEx. Not trying to be a smartass.

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Unfortunately, almost everyone in KY is related. UPS might not be the place for you.
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Originally Posted by Sioux39
Hi all I'm currently in flight training. One of my career aspirations is to one day fly for UPS. However my uncle is a captain on the DC-8. I was told that being related to him means that I cannot work for them. Can someone explain this to me?
It's the Nepotism (check spelling) clause. You can't work for UPS as long as you uncle (or any relative) is still an active employee. However, if and when he retires, he can reccommend you for a position here at UPS. Good luck to you. By the way, how old are you, and how old is you uncle? That can determine when you might get an interview.
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Who else has these clauses?
ive heard of plenty of other parents getting their children hired at bare mins with their airlines
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I think Delta does, or used to
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Originally Posted by Sioux39
Hi all I'm currently in flight training. One of my career aspirations is to one day fly for UPS. However my uncle is a captain on the DC-8. I was told that being related to him means that I cannot work for them. Can someone explain this to me?
Do you guys have the same last name? My point is this: Why does UPS(or any employer for that matter) need to know that he is your uncle?
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Old 10-26-2006, 09:22 PM
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I would think if they have a nepotism clause they probably also ask you about it in the interview or on the application. Lie about it and then they have a reason to fire you. Sounds like he's still 10 or 15 years away from UPS and if his uncle is a DC-8 Capt, probably won't have too long to wait.
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I would think if they have a nepotism clause they probably also ask you about it in the interview or on the application. Lie about it and then they have a reason to fire you. Sounds like he's still 10 or 15 years away from UPS and if his uncle is a DC-8 Capt, probably won't have too long to wait.
hmmm; i don't remember seeing that on the app, but i guess if they did ask, then you would have to be honest. I would think that an uncle is far enough removed, however
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Originally Posted by fecav8r
I think Delta does, or used to

Don't know if it's still the rule, but Delta used to be VERY strict about not hiring a relative of an employee. One senior Captain had to retire early so his son could get a pilot job. Apparently, the rule dated way back to a time when some ground supervisors were grossly favoring relatives in the (non-union) workplace, causing morale problems. The CEO blew up and made an ironclad rule.

There were some unusual exceptions. A father and son ended up flying the DC-8 together because one one of them was working for C&S when they merged with Delta. One F/A married a pilot, then took flying lessons and eventually was able to transfer to flight ops herself. (She was a very good pilot, by the way.) They flew together on one trip, when crew scheduling couldn't find any other reserves.
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