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FBH stated that there are only two ways you can be assigned a DP. Substitution is an additional way. There was NO mention of acceptance or declining!

NoHaz

you can decline sub

Nitefrater

You're right. you didn't mention accepting or declining. But it was worth mentioning so I did.

DLax85

Please call your sponsor and get educated ----QUICKLY!!

Wildmanny

How do those guys do it? Especially with a base full of new hires? Hmmm...maybe it's that they hear the message early and often about how flying DPs KILLS the quality of the lines, therefore the quality of life. Guys don't pick up DPs in ANC (in general...except for some captains who always have an excuse---joking...I need the landings) because they know they'll have to answer the mail when someone calls them on it. It's the way it should be. Professional and respectful always!

PS--I really can't believe we are still having this conversation after all these years. We are only as strong as our weakest __________ (DP flyer, Draft boy during 4a2b, etc...insert your choice of disparagement here.). Therefore, it would appear with all the DPing going on, we aren't that strong. Only a few more months until the contract expires. Get strong now or be weak later!

WM

MD11Fr8Dog

It doesn't expire, it becomes amendable. But you knew that.

Herkflyr

Pardon my interruption, as I am a DAL guy, but I don't get this. Instead of having a "disputed" pairings system, which apparently results in crappy but contractually legal trips, why don't you just fix the contract? Why don't you just have work rules in place that wouldn't allow such a trip to be built in the first place?

Say what you will about other airlines, but I am not aware of such a concept anywhere else. Either a trip is built within contractual rules (and thus could and should be flown by any pilot in the category, whether regular, reserve, rerouted, etc) or it is not. For a trip to be created within contractual language agreed to by your negotiating committee, THEN determined "disputed" seems a bit strange.

Tell me where I am wrong here. I also acknowledge that the type of flying you do is so different than passenger carriers that there are concepts that might apply to you that don't to us, or vice-versa.

Out...and back to my own airline now.

Busboy

What? That's crazy talk!!!

Why would we want to fix the weak areas of our contract, when we can get 3% raises?

trashhauler

Your right Bus, if only we would have bypassed the 6% raise, we would have a contract by now with no need for disputed pairings.
Especially with the committed crew force that we have right now that doesn't fly disputed pairings, that doesn't fly extra during 4a2b, you get the point. I'll take the 6% and chip away at it and hope the crewforce decides they want a contract. But, that's just my opinion

Herkflyr

I think I'm getting it now...