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Old 04-07-2012, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
I'll take arrogant over petty any day.
Is that why you flew wide bodies for 80k for 2 yrs?
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I looked at all the training letters.

It's kind of hard to spot when the real classes end, and when the LCA / A65 etc. begin.

Here's a rough guess. There are classes scheduled past these dates, but they don't look like a full training schedule:

A/C--------Last full class

30------ 07 May
27------ 21 May
57------ 02 July
777----- 25 July
11------ 20 August
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Impending training in mid-July which I've decided I no longer want...I don't have my contract handy. What are a person's options if they decide hey don't want to go to training? Two year seat lock?
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Originally Posted by flextodaline
Cancel the bid....they've done that before too.....
Yep. Exactly. But really, it puts the company in a bit of a problem. You can't very well let the other fleets not to be replenished with a bid just because you're worried about having HKG go unfilled. You'll always have your captains filled over there, so even if a significant portion of guys left, you can SIBA it and just keep pumping it full of new hire FOs...until you close the whole thing down...please!

Therefore, the March/April bid will be along in July/August, just like always.

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Originally Posted by skypine27
Of course not.

I believe they need/want various unresolved FDA issues dealt with before putting out a bid that will have US based primaries and secondaries available that nearly any FDA pilot can hold, coupled with then having to fill the empty slots left by vacating FDA crew members.

I could see this bid delayed for some time.
Is this speculation or your gut feeling?
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by brownie
Is that why you flew wide bodies for 80k for 2 yrs?
....and this has to do with "bid anytime soon?" how? :roll eyes: Talk about thread drift.
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by brownie
Is that why you flew wide bodies for 80k for 2 yrs?
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....and this has to do with "bid anytime soon?" how? :roll eyes: Talk about thread drift.
He becomes delusional when he forgets to take his meds. We flew widebodies for 80K for 2 yrs while UPS has had 470 guys on furlough for 16yrs.

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Old 04-07-2012, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
Here's a rough guess. There are classes scheduled past these dates, but they don't look like a full training schedule:

A/C--------Last full class

30------ 07 May
27------ 21 May
57------ 02 July
777----- 25 July
11------ 20 August
If FDX (for all those who need the input) puts newhires into the Airbus, 72 and 75, the bid doesn't have to come until June.

That's even without messing with current manning and making a couple of bid packs short.
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Old 04-07-2012, 08:02 AM
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If history is a guide, they might just have an excess bid out of the 727 to fill training slots ahead of any vacancy bid. Or, economy dependent, more excess bids.

Notice I didn't say "fill vacancies". They might choose to have an excess bid out of the widebodies after training is under way for the excess out of the 727. It worked before
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October 2012 can't come soon enough. Peak should be VERY interesting, with all the new high-mins captains in the system.

For some reason known only to decision makers (protecting passover for ....... maybe?), we are forbidden to have semi-regular, small or medium-sized bids. We have humongous bids once a year or 18 months or longer, that topple every domino in the system.

Result--chaos and confusion, unpredictability, and training letters that stretch out two years in the future. Just what we all want.

Are you listening, SCP and management? More to the point--do you care?
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