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Old 10-20-2006, 12:17 PM
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Does anyone have any information they can share about FocusAir?
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Old 10-21-2006, 08:04 AM
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There have been a lot of post about Focus Air. Damn, use the search engine!

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/sh...ight=Focus+Air
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Thanks Dutch747 you must be a Captain and I bet your crew loves you with that warm direct advice. Seriously, thanks for providing the search results, I was able to view them. I wonder if I had not done the 10 posts if I could have?

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I always seem to get in trouble with my approach. You are a registered user so you have access to the search engine correct? Regardless, if you need more information, don't hesitate to ask.
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Does anyone have any information they can share about FocusAir?
DON'T DO IT..... look at the pay scales people say 9E is lowering the bar but for god sakes FocusAir is just Fuking pathetic.....
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DON'T DO IT..... look at the pay scales people say 9E is lowering the bar but for god sakes FocusAir is just Fuking pathetic.....
How did you come up with this statement? I thought Focus was paid more than any of the other 747 bottom feeders?
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Well ok let me validate my statement then... On this website under airlines/cargo/focusair.... Then let's look at top 747 CA pay (year five) $127/ hr using the calculator below it I come up with $127/hr x 60 hr gaurantee / mo X 12 mo / yr = $91,440/yr base now basic assumption lets say you are away for 21 days per month... 21 x $48 per deim /day x 12 mo /year =$12096/yr perdeim so total = $103536 max 747 CA pay per year.... Same process using 1 year CA pay = $70,560/yr + per deim = $82,656. Lets go further.... Year one FO = $42480 /year + per deim = $54576; Year five FO= $61,200/year + perdeim = $73,296

There is No way a top 74 CA at any company should only make $103K a year with a 5 year max out nor should any 747 FO only make $54K a year....and max at five years making $73K a year... Hell many senior RJ CA's make what a top 747 CA makes at focus... FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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Originally Posted by Space Monkey
Well ok let me validate my statement then... On this website under airlines/cargo/focusair.... Then let's look at top 747 CA pay (year five) $127/ hr using the calculator below it I come up with $127/hr x 60 hr gaurantee / mo X 12 mo / yr = $91,440/yr base now basic assumption lets say you are away for 21 days per month... 21 x $48 per deim /day x 12 mo /year =$12096/yr perdeim so total = $103536 max 747 CA pay per year.... Same process using 1 year CA pay = $70,560/yr + per deim = $82,656. Lets go further.... Year one FO = $42480 /year + per deim = $54576; Year five FO= $61,200/year + perdeim = $73,296

There is No way a top 74 CA at any company should only make $103K a year with a 5 year max out nor should any 747 FO only make $54K a year....and max at five years making $73K a year... Hell many senior RJ CA's make what a top 747 CA makes at focus... FOOD FOR THOUGHT
Well I agree with you some, but compair it to all the other 747 operators and it is way more than they make. Let's face it the pay scales we had before 9-11 are gone. I don't like it but that's how it is these days. I still make more than a 5th year regional guy and I am flying a 747. I am gone 19 days a month. I stay in really nice hotels. Fly business class to and from work. I have a 401K and pretty descent medical compaired to others and upgrade is not all that far off. Our pay scales only go out to 5 years because the company is only a year old. I'll bet you by the time the 5th year comes around there won't be any RJ captains making more than I will unless they fly their butt off. Sure you'll get guys who'll ***** about it here as you will anyplace. But there are places so much worse to be than here. So if you don't like it and want to make a stand about the pay then good for you. Or maybe you have another agenda to make you bad mouth us?
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Originally Posted by Normy!
REALLY, places like Kalitta, Focus, Southern, etc. are all just regionals with big equipment, but these are still better places to work.

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Do you guys really think that flying a 747, making just over 100K a year, and working 19 days a freaking month is a good deal? YGBSM--right? As long as you guys are willing to work your asses off (19 days a month) for less money, things will never get better. Wake up dudes and walk away from the light. Saying you fly a 747 is just not that big a deal. I understand you are trying to "make it", but trust me you have not arrived where you want to be just yet.
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