Originally Posted by Albief15

So what do you think would happen if the union said "hell--fight them! We'll kick their ass in court..." and then LOST the case.

Pilots are about the only group who routinely sue their own union. I'm sure a terminated pilot would quickly wheel around and say he made the call based on bad advice from his union legal team. It creates a situation where the attorneys for the union are often in a tough spot. I'm not an attorney, but if I were counseling a guy who might lose a 6 million dollar career if I was wrong, but could keep his job for 180k, I sort of understand why a pragmatic approach might be offered. Remember, I was the guy that was SURE section 26k was an automatic pay raise for the 777... We know how that turned out. So--I understand caution when making decisions that affect people's lives.

One thing I will offer for everyone here...its easy to say "heck--they should just do XXXX " If you are facing a decision tree where one option is termination, that's a serious gut check. That is why I wrote checks to the horse handler de-planers a few years back. This ain't a puss game, when you are betting your career you need to do so with some serious thought.

Again--HKG has always been a mess. The silver lining to this is whatever is EXPECTED of the pilots there and whatever is ACTUALLY REQUIRED should soon be delineated and made clear. Let's move this grey into some black and white. I just hope we can fix it without hurting any of our pilots along the way.