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Old 03-13-2012, 01:38 PM
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So is it about 12 days off a month then?
12 -14 days on in a 28 day FDX month.
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:17 PM
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[/QUOTE] But, making frau woodro happy probably has its advatages.[/QUOTE]

HA! That was great, she rolled with that one. Good advice to work on the commuting part. It will be interesting fitting a commute to my AF reserve unit as well. Sounds like an adventure, all I need is a call/interview/class date.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:29 PM
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That said, for those that bid the FDA, you should understand and abide by the rules.
Thanks! Since you are a self-appointed expert on this subject in two threads, please show us specifically where it tells the crewforce EXACTLY how many days in a calendar year one must be remain physically present in an FDA, whether they are on their own time or not, regardless of personal family issues such as deaths, health, legal, custody, visitation, where one decides to vacation, kidnapped by aliens, etc.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:52 PM
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golfandfly,

I want to make sure I understand your position on this issue. I do not care how you voted on the FDA. I do not care what you think about our FDA language. That is irrelevant to my questions because it passed and is a part of our contract.

Let us take a single pilot that goes to HKG and accepts the housing allowance. Is it your position FedEx can dictate the pilot's location on his days off? If yes, how many of them? All?

Now we are talking about a married pilot that goes to HKG and accepts the housing allowance. I am assuming you don't change your mind now about the employee. How about the spouse? Can FedEx dictate where the spouse (that is not a FedEx employee) must be at all times? Some of the time?
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:49 PM
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golfandfly,

I want to make sure I understand your position on this issue. I do not care how you voted on the FDA. I do not care what you think about our FDA language. That is irrelevant to my questions because it passed and is a part of our contract.

Let us take a single pilot that goes to HKG and accepts the housing allowance. Is it your position FedEx can dictate the pilot's location on his days off? If yes, how many of them? All?

Now we are talking about a married pilot that goes to HKG and accepts the housing allowance. I am assuming you don't change your mind now about the employee. How about the spouse? Can FedEx dictate where the spouse (that is not a FedEx employee) must be at all times? Some of the time?
If it were me, and I took the allowance, I would move my family with me and actually make Hong Kong my primary residence. My kids would enroll in schools based there. They could vacation all summer long in the states. I would join them when I could.

If I were single, I would set up my primary residence in Hong Kong. I would spend the majority of time there, since it is my home. I would go wherever I wanted in my time off. However, if I were commuting back to my old house, I would have taken amnesty.

If these guys set up their permanent residence in Hong Kong, they should have an easy time with their hearing. I believe they will have no problems.

If my wife and family were living elsewhere, and records showed that I jumpseated back there every time I was off, I have to tell you that I would have taken amnesty.

These individuals will have the opportunity to explain their unique circumstances. Everyone probably has a reasonable explanation. If they are reasonable, I am sure they will exit without any discipline.

You can jailhouse lawyer all day long. It's simple, the company expects you to move to Hong Kong if you take the housing allowance. If you can say that you have done that, I think you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Iwa Washi
Thanks! Since you are a self-appointed expert on this subject in two threads, please show us specifically where it tells the crewforce EXACTLY how many days in a calendar year one must be remain physically present in an FDA, whether they are on their own time or not, regardless of personal family issues such as deaths, health, legal, custody, visitation, where one decides to vacation, kidnapped by aliens, etc.
I'd say this is a better defense than discrimination, but it really isn't that hard. Is it your primary residence? Is this where you live? If so, you have fulfilled the contract.
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
If it were me, and I took the allowance, I would move my family with me and actually make Hong Kong my primary residence. My kids would enroll in schools based there. They could vacation all summer long in the states. I would join them when I could.
Good. We have another volunteer to go so I don't have to. Let me know what it's like.

If I had a nickle for everytime someone who wasn't going said it was a good deal or not so bad, I'd have at least a couple of dollars.
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:03 PM
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Good. We have another volunteer to go so I don't have to. Let me know what it's like.

If I had a nickle for everytime someone who wasn't going said it was a good deal or not so bad, I'd have at least a couple of dollars.
I never said it was a good deal. It downright sucks! I voted against this POS both in LOA 1 and the new contract. I wouldn't bid it...
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Old 03-14-2012, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
These individuals will have the opportunity to explain their unique circumstances. Everyone probably has a reasonable explanation. If they are reasonable, I am sure they will exit without any discipline.
Yeah, because that always happens around here.
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
You can jailhouse lawyer all day long. It's simple, the company expects you to move to Hong Kong if you take the housing allowance. If you can say that you have done that, I think you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
By this reasoning, Rosa Parks would have had "absolutely nothing to worry about" if she'd only got up off that bus seat and made room for the white dude. If the company expects its pilots to be OK with working conditions that violate the pilot's civil rights and the pilot's spouse's liberty and privacy, on pain of termination, it can also expect to be challenged in court.
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