FDXLAG

They are leading, just not where you want to go.

Wildmanny

Notice that 94 is still in there for March, but has been revised. It's the beginning of trying to make it better, but still not good enough.

FYI--DPs are tracked by the company simply by the pairing number. As long as (this example) Trip 94 is part if the bidpack, it is disputed and no matter what they do to it and call it 94, it's still considered a DP. Watch this pairing. It'll either fly as Reserve or it will become a different number and then you are cleared in hot...not until then.

AerisArmis

6+ years into the disputed pairing process and we have 8 ANC DPs for April 2012. This will be unpopular but I'll say it anyway. The whole disputed pairing process is a failure. A lot of dedicated, hard working folks have given it their best shot but given the current rules, it's a waste of time. Despite their best efforts, they get flown, then blessed by the VP Ops, then are no longer disputed. The system is so upside down that previously disputed pairings are available in open time that are worse than the currently disputed pairings. The guys who do fly them get crapped on by their fellow pilots further eroding unity. The penalties to the company, financial or otherwise are so insignificant that it's a joke. Someone, I don't know who, once said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Well, for 6+ years, we've been beating our head against the same brick wall and the wall stands.
This doesn't mean the SIG hasn't made a positive impact and everyone of us should buy them a beer every time we see them but.......the only fix is with in the CBA framework. Scheduling HAS to be the number one priority for the next contract. In the interim, I'd suggest the SIG fight the good fight with the company but not dispute a single pairing ever, and let the crew force know which pairings, on which lines, they consider onerous. Then let the college educated pilots decide if the really want to bid them or not. Fatigue is always an option and is actually a way of confirming the validity of the the SIG. Like I said, this opinion won't be popular with the torch and pitchfork crowd be it's my 2c.

PastV1

-1

The SIG works out multiple issues on pairings every month. Saying it is a failure is not correct in my opinion. If you put the trips on lines they will be assigned to someone. If that someone is you will you drop it knowing that you could possibly not find another trip and take the pay hit? Would you ask someone else to take the pay hit for "the team'?

My .02

Laughing_Jakal

I +1 to your -1 making a net total to Aeris of -2....but I may need to consult a number line because integer mathematics and absolute values are not my strong suit. At least with the dispute, we can keep them out of the lines for a while.

since I "+1'd" your "-1" two cents worth, is that my .04, or is that Aeris's -$.04?

2005 Blues

While I agree that the disputed pairing process needs to be remedied, I disagree that it doesn't cost the company anything when we don't pick them up. Check out Wildmanny's post about the cost of DP 87 last month:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...-87-recap.html

It does cost the company money when these aren't voluntarily picked up, at least in this case.

PastV1

In this case a negative plus a negative is a bigger negative....