trashhauler

Maybe not Bus, but it is a majority and this is what the process is all about. I just hope that the departing reps can man up and accept the democratic process and begin the healing that is needed in our union. We can agree to disagree, but the majority has spoken. Let's work on getting our next contract. IMO.

FLMD11CAPT

BBoy, you and the subsequent poster after you amaze me in your attempts to minimize. In any election 9% is certainly a large margin and definitely a "significantly" greater margin. Now if you want to compare it to the LEC votes to send the question to ALPA National where the margins were 2 and 3 to 1....ok.........

DLax85

What were the "participation rates" as a percentage of eligible voters?

Auger In

There were 1,039 eligible voters and 543 voted. 52% participated.

Busboy

Attempting to minimize? Is that what I'm doing? I'm just trying to point out to you, that there are many folks that don't agree with you, and the remaining MEC officers. This recall was not a landslide...48%, 48% and 43% voted against the recalls. That leaves a lot of people that are not on board with what is going on. Good grief, if just 13 of the votes out the 1039 eligible voters had switched, two of the recalls would have failed! Again, that is not a mandate. But, it is what it is. They were recalled.

So, now is the time for some real leadership. And, leadership that will truly unite this group. And, that can only happen with results. Either way, good or bad. I truly hope that the "measured, mature and businesslike model that we have clearly indicated"(as you put it) that we want the MEC to use, is successful. Past history would indicate otherwise. However, management now has an opportunity, perhaps their last, to step up to the table and deliver a good contract. Without all the drama and stench that comes with getting one, in a traditional manner.

I hope this leadership can deliver.

AerisArmis

If anybody thinks these guys are going to go away quietly.......ain't gonna happen.

Baja

Me too. I feel that there has been a void of leadership. Folks can certainly have their opinion (I have one) but in trying to understand all the various emails I received, it sure seemed to me that these recalled reps may have been at the core of a discussion to remove the Chairman and elect a new one. That appears to have then been turned around on them in a sort of "Back at cha" move. In any case, this shouldn't have progressed to such internal strife. That's where true leadership shows its stuff. I haven't seen that.

trashhauler

Well Baja, there is a misconception about the recalls out there that SS orchestrated the recalls. That is absolutely false. We, the members of those blocks pursued the recalls because the majority of the block(51% or more) did not agree with the direction CB and TH wanted to take us. That's it, plain and simple. There is no large conspiracy! Take it for what it's worth, but we need to put this behind us and move on!

4A2B

excellent point, and I would add that if you recall they both lost the interim elections for these positions and then won by even smaller margins than this recall vote in the actual block elections. Certainly not a mandate either, yet they both acted as if they had a mandate to support their OWN agenda and they ignored the majority of their blocks wishes.

That is why they have been recalled, failing to represent their constituency and acting on behalf of a mandate they did not have.

AerisArmis

True...but both of these guys won their original election by 6 votes. That was their "mandate". 4 votes switched and there never would've been a need for a recall. You know what they say about statistics?