Flying for FedEx?
#91
I know TONS of FedEx guys that got hired with only turboprop PIC (P-3, C-130, King Air, various commuter aircraft) time. Myself included! It sure doesn't look to me like FedEx looks down their noses at "lowly propeller drivers." Not sure what gives you folks that impression?
#92
I know TONS of FedEx guys that got hired with only turboprop PIC (P-3, C-130, King Air, various commuter aircraft) time. Myself included! It sure doesn't look to me like FedEx looks down their noses at "lowly propeller drivers." Not sure what gives you folks that impression?
#93
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I know TONS of FedEx guys that got hired with only turboprop PIC (P-3, C-130, King Air, various commuter aircraft) time. Myself included! It sure doesn't look to me like FedEx looks down their noses at "lowly propeller drivers." Not sure what gives you folks that impression?
Since I'm a turbo-prop Captain and Check Airman now, I got the impression that turbo-prop time is now (under the new system) looked at very differently than jet time.
I hope I'm wrong.
#94
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FedEx HR told me that my application would score better if I were in the right seat of an RJ. Specifically, I was told that I need experience in something more "complex", and since I already have the check airman box filled, I would be better off in the right seat of a jet.
Since I'm a turbo-prop Captain and Check Airman now, I got the impression that turbo-prop time is now (under the new system) looked at very differently than jet time.
I hope I'm wrong.
Since I'm a turbo-prop Captain and Check Airman now, I got the impression that turbo-prop time is now (under the new system) looked at very differently than jet time.
I hope I'm wrong.
The fact that you trusted HR may have been the disqualifying event. If their lips are moving ...
#95
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Any good first officer is thinking the exact same things as the captain.
51% say, 49% say.
To ask for PIC time on a resume is one thing (and I don't think it's inappropriate).
To say it's a different job entirely between the right seat and left seat, I completely disagree.
51% say, 49% say.
To ask for PIC time on a resume is one thing (and I don't think it's inappropriate).
To say it's a different job entirely between the right seat and left seat, I completely disagree.
Way back when, as a newly commissioned Air Force pilot, while attending combat crew training, I thought that leading a flight of fighters wasn't any harder than flying as "blue 4." A few years later, after I had earned the privilege of being called a flight leader, did I finally come to understand how different both jobs were. In my opinion, very similar to the differences between the two seats in a commercial airliner.
JJ
#96
FedEx HR told me that my application would score better if I were in the right seat of an RJ. Specifically, I was told that I need experience in something more "complex", and since I already have the check airman box filled, I would be better off in the right seat of a jet.
Since I'm a turbo-prop Captain and Check Airman now, I got the impression that turbo-prop time is now (under the new system) looked at very differently than jet time.
I hope I'm wrong.
Since I'm a turbo-prop Captain and Check Airman now, I got the impression that turbo-prop time is now (under the new system) looked at very differently than jet time.
I hope I'm wrong.
I was hired in 2011 with no jet time, but I think you know who I am.
#97
When at the schoolhouse, I used to tell SQ/CC & DO that, "I can train anyone to fly from the left seat, but I can't teach him to be an Aircraft Commander in 6 weeks". I can't speak for any other aircraft than mine, but it's more of a "mission commander" than simple pilot with a nose wheel steering to think about...
#98
That would be the FO who has to take the aircraft from an experienced Captain who was/is operating in a dangerous & reckless manner ...
BTDT ...
Back to "Flying for FedEx?"
#99
Have you operated from both the F/O and Captain's seat? If so, I find it hard to believe that you don't understand the difference. If not, I completely understand your point of view.
Way back when, as a newly commissioned Air Force pilot, while attending combat crew training, I thought that leading a flight of fighters wasn't any harder than flying as "blue 4." A few years later, after I had earned the privilege of being called a flight leader, did I finally come to understand how different both jobs were. In my opinion, very similar to the differences between the two seats in a commercial airliner.
JJ
Way back when, as a newly commissioned Air Force pilot, while attending combat crew training, I thought that leading a flight of fighters wasn't any harder than flying as "blue 4." A few years later, after I had earned the privilege of being called a flight leader, did I finally come to understand how different both jobs were. In my opinion, very similar to the differences between the two seats in a commercial airliner.
JJ
If I'm an FO and we get a holding clearance, I'm thinking about the fuel numbers and when to divert too.
If I'm an FO and we have a medical issue in the cabin (or perhaps a dispute about hazmat to compare to the cargo world), I'm going to be thinking through what we should or should not do, just like the captain is.
Just because the FO doesn't have the final say doesn't mean they shouldn't backup the captain with their take on the situation.
I felt like upgrading to the left seat was a seamless transition because of this.
As for resume stuff and hiring minimums, I think that is a totally different topic. I agree that seeing on someone's resume that they have at some time in the career been the PIC at a comparable job (121, or jet, etc.) is a desirable qualifier -- in order to make sure that they're not the F/O that's just moving the gear handle and reading checklists with their mind elsewhere!
#100
you should be thinking the same thing. The difference is when the hammer falls the capt has no one to blame.
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