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Old 12-11-2011, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
777 has home study days built in to the front end of the training foot print.
Yes, but those pilots volunteered for that program because of the higher pay rate....oh wait

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Can't ***** about how short UPS's MD-11 school is AND ***** about them reducing the training footprint at FedEx. Always comes back to be careful what you wish for.
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Originally Posted by Cujo
In the schoolhouse now and have heard a few things floating around:

Most or all MDS's going thur syllabi changes. Starts 9 Jan. The training letter was revised to build some slop (time) in order to evaluate the new program(s). Schoolhouse leaning more towards Pro's these days and will continue so.
(MD-11) - 1 week of gnd school is gone as well as some of the later lofts (those tasks however are embedded in the other AST's). Plan to show up for school with LMS/CBT's completed and a solid understanding of systems. Only a few days (maybe 3) of review and then your ESV. LMS/CBT's will be required before specific events but can't be started until opted from the previous event. Since the LMS is tracked and logged, if you don't complete it before the sim, you'll have to do it after the sim, within a certain time period (I heard 3 hrs).

My impression is as they shrink the program's overall length, they are putting more of the instruction on-line (pilot self-help) and setting daily deadlines to complete said instruction (whether systems or FTD/AST). The pro's are there to provide review and answer questions rather than provide complete instruction (you should already know it). Anything not covered by training, "you'll get that during IOE." I can say the study material they have provided has been 1st class and there have been no surprises, it's all on-line.

Not sure if it's good or bad, but it is a shift in training methodology (at least from FDX past)....YMMV
any idea why the 777 training classes got slid 2++ months? Went from 16 feb to 25 apr class date. Hosed vacation plans, understand we have to accept the training date unkonwn factor, but a 4 month window (+- 2 months) after the initial training letter is released is excessive.
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Originally Posted by olly
any idea why the 777 training classes ....
Originally Posted by TheBaron
Yes, but those pilots volunteered for that program because of the higher pay rate....oh wait
I think with the 767 bid coming out soon (with no pay rate), they are afraid all the 777 guys will leave and run (jump, stampede, kick, scream) over to the new shiney jet...just a guess though...
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Originally Posted by Cujo
I think with the 767 bid coming out soon (with no pay rate), they are afraid all the 777 guys will leave and run (jump, stampede, kick, scream) over to the new shiney jet...just a guess though...
Gotta bid the 757 (NB pay) first in order to get to the shiny, new jet. Come on in and enjoy that pay rate no body was worried about last time around!
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