Can I get hired by FedEx?
11-10-2011, 04:18 PM
#61
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First off, I have nothing but the upmost respect for service members.
But since we're people want to turn this into a mil vs. civ who "deserves the job more" type of whine fest. You know, the kind that ALWAYS pops when a hiring cycle starts, it's competitive and dorky pilots have to stick their chests out, thump them loudly, and say "I did this this and this therefore I'm more holy than thou art and deserve this job more" type crap. Doesn't matter the background.
In reference to your above post, not many regional pilots commuting with min days off, corp/135 jobs, ACMI jobs, etc allow for much time to go volunteer or do community service either.
I'm pretty sure I know as many service members that had non-flying or enlisted backgrounds as those that did. Sorry, I don't care, they BOTH "deserve" the SAME consideration to me for their service/sacrifice to their country. Whenever I fly with a mil guy that flew and he starts to go off on enlisted personel in the military I just roll my eyes at the sense of entitlement and superiority he's probably has his WHOLE life.
And NOPE, not ALL are like this. Civilian only types do it to. But every background demographic has their "10 percent".
If that truth is too ugly for some to handle, sorry. It's STILL the truth.
But since we're people want to turn this into a mil vs. civ who "deserves the job more" type of whine fest. You know, the kind that ALWAYS pops when a hiring cycle starts, it's competitive and dorky pilots have to stick their chests out, thump them loudly, and say "I did this this and this therefore I'm more holy than thou art and deserve this job more" type crap. Doesn't matter the background.
In reference to your above post, not many regional pilots commuting with min days off, corp/135 jobs, ACMI jobs, etc allow for much time to go volunteer or do community service either.
I'm pretty sure I know as many service members that had non-flying or enlisted backgrounds as those that did. Sorry, I don't care, they BOTH "deserve" the SAME consideration to me for their service/sacrifice to their country. Whenever I fly with a mil guy that flew and he starts to go off on enlisted personel in the military I just roll my eyes at the sense of entitlement and superiority he's probably has his WHOLE life.
And NOPE, not ALL are like this. Civilian only types do it to. But every background demographic has their "10 percent".
If that truth is too ugly for some to handle, sorry. It's STILL the truth.
Ah selective edititing. Leaving out the extra eleven words in my post frames the debate much better for you dosent it. I was not thumping my chest. My military service was at a time when it was much easier to serve. Same base house for 9 years and you dont want to know where it was located.
Hacker did not slam enlisted or non flyers, he simply pointed out that the ops tempo in the military is tough. And in general tougher for flyers. Yes your 10% rule applies, I am sure there are many enlisted and non flying jobs in the military that have equal or more demanding time demands.
The question we are discussing is that the current FDX hiring policy apparently does not consider service to country as community service. Is this fair or not? Sounds like you want to debate military vs civilian. Have at it but dont pretend I started it. You did and I am not playing.
11-10-2011, 04:38 PM
#62
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With that in mind, I'll simply disregard the rest of your post. One in which you chose to use selective reading comprehension. Or just simply read the WRONG way, take you pic, and have a good night.
11-10-2011, 05:03 PM
#63
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Position: 767 FO
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Nope. not all. Forgive me, I was simply keying off of what you said, NOT debating you. As well as simply saying it DOESN'T matter what somebody did or currently does. Community service/volunteering simply may not be an option.
With that in mind, I'll simply disregard the rest of your post. One in which you chose to use selective reading comprehension. Or just simply read the WRONG way, take you pic, and have a good night.
With that in mind, I'll simply disregard the rest of your post. One in which you chose to use selective reading comprehension. Or just simply read the WRONG way, take you pic, and have a good night.
PS I have flown with a lot of military pilots at FDX and a couple more in the Air Force. I have never heard one go off on enlisted. Your sample size needs to be expanded.
Last edited by FDXLAG; 11-10-2011 at 05:24 PM.
11-10-2011, 05:14 PM
#64
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You use my post and talk about whine fests and mil vs civilian, blah blah blah. Talk about reading what you want to read. Find a post in this thread where I am dissing civilians or non rated military. My one and only position in this thread is whether military service equals community service or not? I think it does.
What I said about community service was simply keying off your post. THE REST WAS NOT INTENDED FOR YOU!!!!! ARE WE CLEAR!!!!!????? It was intended for EVERYBODY else in the thread that's making it military pilot vs. military non-pilot.
If that isn't clear enough, don't know what to tell ya man.
Last edited by xjtguy; 11-10-2011 at 05:53 PM. Reason: Kant spel
11-10-2011, 05:48 PM
#65
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I agree with this. I would love to do this stuff but something has got to give.
Here is my current schedule from April 2011 to March 2012
April - 15 days TDY (Only 7 of those were for my flying job)
May - November ~185 Deployed (0 flying)
December - Home (hopefully)
Jan - 30 days TDY (Only 5 for my flying job)
Mar - ~5 days TDY (0 for my flying job)
Its only November so I'm sure March soon fill up. From April to March I will hopefully get to be home 45 days. Not deployed for flyers does not equal home. That is a very important distinction. I'm currently working with some Logistics Officers (LROs). They do more 6 month deployments, but when their home their home. My last flying assignment 2 weeks after our deployment we had 7 crews back out on the road for 15 day trips in the C-17. Then fit at least 2 4-6 week Altus trips and other various TDYs and you can see that not deployed does not equal home. Then, its time to deploy again. Its fun trying to put in for leave 6 months before kids birthdays just to make sure your home. I don't think Hacker meant anything disrespectful, but to just point out there is a difference in lifestyle that does not afford certain things. Just my $.02.
Here is my current schedule from April 2011 to March 2012
April - 15 days TDY (Only 7 of those were for my flying job)
May - November ~185 Deployed (0 flying)
December - Home (hopefully)
Jan - 30 days TDY (Only 5 for my flying job)
Mar - ~5 days TDY (0 for my flying job)
Its only November so I'm sure March soon fill up. From April to March I will hopefully get to be home 45 days. Not deployed for flyers does not equal home. That is a very important distinction. I'm currently working with some Logistics Officers (LROs). They do more 6 month deployments, but when their home their home. My last flying assignment 2 weeks after our deployment we had 7 crews back out on the road for 15 day trips in the C-17. Then fit at least 2 4-6 week Altus trips and other various TDYs and you can see that not deployed does not equal home. Then, its time to deploy again. Its fun trying to put in for leave 6 months before kids birthdays just to make sure your home. I don't think Hacker meant anything disrespectful, but to just point out there is a difference in lifestyle that does not afford certain things. Just my $.02.
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