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Old 08-07-2011, 07:32 PM
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I might have missed it, but I read several articles over the last week and looks like FedEx made it through to the White House. They were named in one article but just "cargo carriers" in this one.

Regulators Delay New Rules on Pilot Fatigue - WSJ.com

Crazy stuff...
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I might have missed it, but I read several articles over the last week and looks like FedEx made it through to the White House. They were named in one article but just "cargo carriers" in this one.

Regulators Delay New Rules on Pilot Fatigue - WSJ.com

Crazy stuff...
for what it's worth, I sent a email to the white house... I recommend everyone flood them with same
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When everyone knows the system must be fixed, but the system itself won't allow it, then the system is well and truly broken.
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When everyone knows the system must be fixed, but the system itself won't allow it, then the system is well and truly broken.
You talking about the whole debt ceiling thing?
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You talking about the whole debt ceiling thing?
No! Both..........To many idiots in DC.....Dems want all your money to give to those that don't deserve it.........Repubs want all your money to give it to the corporations that don't want to share it............I am so confused
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No! Both..........To many idiots in DC.....Dems want all your money to give to those that don't deserve it.........Repubs want all your money to give it to the corporations that don't want to share it............I am so confused
This might be the best summary of current day politics I've ever seen!
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Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty
I might have missed it, but I read several articles over the last week and looks like FedEx made it through to the White House. They were named in one article but just "cargo carriers" in this one.

Regulators Delay New Rules on Pilot Fatigue - WSJ.com
Pandering to freight companies. If changes are made the President will never be able to say airline safety is a priority again. He will be lying if he does.

When I write I will mention that "cargo" pilots fly into the same airports and share the same airspace in close proximity to "passenger" flights. To let any pilot become more fatigued endangers all airplane traffic. Runway incursions and near mid-air collisions are not single airplane events.

Washington may think the danger to freight carrying airplanes is different than passenger aircraft. Let them know how wrong they are.

Wonder what Randy Babbitt will do if a cargo cutout makes it thru. I think he should resign and make a nasty statement if it does.
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Wonder what Randy Babbitt will do if a cargo cutout makes it thru. I think he should resign and make a nasty statement if it does.
Don't hold your breath ...

Not that his resignation would accomplish anything anyway !
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This was highly expected by most of us. There wasn't a lot of talk about the new regulations coming out, because we knew it would get sidetracked.

Now it's a national security thing. How can we get troops to Afghanistan if we don't have excessively long duty periods? We don't give a damn about their safety, we just need them there immediately! Most troop movements are coordinated in advance and getting there a day or two late isn't a big issue.

I've heard it all now. If a company chose to position crews (like we do at Fedex when we fly short notice military charters), you can turn an airplane in less than two hours. Yes it costs more to do this, but I'd rather get the troops there in one piece than risk their safety (along with the crew).
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I've heard it all now. If a company chose to position crews (like we do at Fedex when we fly short notice military charters), you can turn an airplane in less than two hours. Yes it costs more to do this, but I'd rather get the troops there in one piece than risk their safety (along with the crew).
Every charter I've either coordinated for, or actually ridden on myself, conducted multiple crew swaps. And the ground times were typically 1+50 or less.
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