subicpilot

The rumor I heard was that the new 767 would share a common cockpit with the 777. No pay problems there...I'll believe it when I see it.

skypine27

Yup.

All CALs (back when it was still CAL anyway) 767-400s came with the 777 cockpit. However the plane was flown like most "normal" airlines, ie a crew was qual'ed to fly the 757 and 767 (any variant) and 777 guys flew only the 777.

If the plane shows up here, I'm scared of our company s ability to do the right thing when it comes to widebody pay rates on an AC that can be flown by current narrowbody pilots as well as scared of our unions ability to fight it.

Hopefully the 330 shows up instead and there won't be any grey area when it comes to which pay scale it will fall into.

Deespatcher

Well. Im secure in the fact I know my company won't do the right thing without litigation.

If you do go the 764/777 route I look forward reading about denial of jumpseatsrs

Huck

We're looking at the -300....

KnightFlyer

6/22 Q4 Q&A conference call:

Our next question will come from John Barnes of RBC Capital Markets.

John Barnes - RBC Capital Markets, LLC

Real quick on your aircraft outlook, there were some conversation recently about you also may be taking a look at the 767 [767-400ERF]. Could you just talk about what your aircraft plans are on a go forward basis between the 777 [Boeing 777F], the 757 [Boeing 757] and any potential other new aircraft you might add to the fleet?

David Bronczek

Yes, John, this is Dave Bronczek. We're always looking at ways to improve our efficiencies on fuel and capacity and payload. And so of course, everything that's out there in the marketplace from Boeing and Airbus, we're taking a hard look at to make sure that it makes a financial sense for us going forward. Right now, of course, we're in the transition period of the 727 to the 757s. We have 37 of those flying at the moment. We purchased 57 of them. And of course, the 777s, we have 12. In revenue operations, we've purchased 13. So to your specific point, we're looking at all the opportunities and the options that are out there for us.


David Vernon - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co., Inc.

I just have a short question about the 757 and 727 transition. Can you talk about specifically what percentage of the flying that used to be done by 727s has now been transitioned to 75s and when you think that that will be done?

David Bronczek

Yes, a great question. By FY '16, I just got an update on it this week, we'll be completely out of the 727s. And the sooner, the better. Obviously the 757s, we have 37 of them flying now. We purchased 57 in total. And the faster we can get those 757s into the network, the better off will be on the operating profit, fuel savings, reliability and every other thing. Thank you for the question.

viperdriver

Funny I keep hearing 727 is most reliable airplane on the property.

cougar

Currently there isn't a 767-400 freighter version in the works. At Boeing and asked the question, they said there wasn't any demand for it(why buy 767-400F when 777F makes more sense). Additionally, the 767-400 is 21 ft longer than the -300ER, which requires the main landing gear to be extended by 19 inches to avoid tail strikes. This is why the 767-400 has a nose down attitude when on the ramp which would have to be addressed for cargo loading(like the A330F).

Jumbo Pilot

The IS&S cockpit configuration for our 757's is also available for the 767. ABX had/has it in their 767's. It would make more sense to put that configuration in the 767 if FDX wanted the current 757 pilots to fly the airplane.

I don't believe the FAA would allow the 777 crews to fly the 767 without a great deal more training in the type... As stated before there would only require some differences training for our 757 guys to fly the airplane since it is already a common type rating.

IF ... and it's a big if.. IF FDX decides to go the 767 route, that makes the most sense to me.

But... who says things have to make sense around here?

The pay seems like a fairly simple deal if our union negotiates it properly...

Narrow body pay for trips flown on the 757.. Wide Body pay for trips flown on the 767.

Reserve pay would have to be negotiated..

At other carriers flying both the 757 and 767, reserve is paid at the higher rate..

FedElta

Some carriers pay the higher rate for all flying done in a combined category.

Laughing_Jakal

Well, I guess it would be a natural move to a single payrate like UPS has, and the subsequent reduction of training cycles/cost as people won't have to chase a payrate.