Freightpuppy

GAWD, I hope this happens! I feel like there is absolutely nothing going our way for the last 10 years. It would be nice to finally hear some good news!

JustUnderPar

For those FQS's that believe their pay has nothing to do with the IPA contract will find out soon enough how UPS values their skills. It should be evident in how they have treated their own employees with the furlough. When the new rules are implemented they will find out. This will effect UPS like NO other airline in how the "management" system is set up.

It will be so ironic since the card drive has failed that many of these guys living in million dollar homes will suddenly become _ _ _ _ _ _.

Too bad more than a few have fallen victim to the corporate line. Arrogance is a dangerous thing!

Rocco

It will be interesting in how the impending rules will impact the management structure at UPS. The current form of the proposed rules ( http://www.faa.gov/regulations_polic...2010_22626.pdf ) would prohibit some of the practices that have allowed the company to operate extremely lean on the pilots to A/C ratio.

Southwest airlines has (arguably) the most productive pilot staff with pilot to aircraft ratio of approximately 10.8 pilots per aircraft.

UPS has a ratio of approximately 11.9 pilots per aircraft. This will get lower as the year goes on as we are adding a 767 every other month and around 50 retirements per year for the next few years.

Southwest airlines operates a completely different operation than UPS does. It is impossible (for me) to figure these metrics for FedEx (our nearest competitor), because I have no idea how many are on the 727. But I would imagine their numbers are not much better than UPS's. Again not sure.

Management has been the shock absorber for staffing issues or anytime the "contract" gets in the way. This, I believe, will change somewhat with the proposed rules. I do agree that the current management structure at UPS is not mirrored at any other airline in the world. I am sure this will change how business is done. Probably not the impact that some "hope", but it will impact the company. I guess this will be M.N. first test?

JUP I am still hoping that the recalls will begin this summer, but as time passes I am losing hope. Not an event goes by at UPS that the furlough is not discussed amongst crew members. We have a number of pilots leaving for FedEx. This will forever change the makeup of hiring pilots at UPS. Pay is good. The way you are treated as an employee could be better. I don't think Jim Casey would recognize this place.

Busboy

I'm not sure that was what you didn't mean not to say.

Zoso

Don't get your hopes up about the rest rules.

brownie

I was once told by an ex congressman that united states has the best goverment that money can buy and for that reason I tend to agree with you.

Dead Tired

Exactly! I've been running the APU to the max extent possible for quite awhile. UPS says it costs $7.00 a minute to run the APU. Doing that for 30-40 minutes prior to every flight and 5-10 after every landing starts to add up. After 22 years of UPS's nonsense, it would be easy to give a number reasons why I screw them over at $7.00 a minute but any of you UPSers can figure that out for yourselves.

MaydayMark

Wait until you get a personal letter from the CEO saying, "We will go on, with or without you." What in the world was he thinking?

Rocco

Thanks Bus!

Precontact

I don't agree with your idea, but you're the captain. Not the most environmentally sensitive procedure either. Do you do it on a line check as well? You know they're recording all of these metrics, so one would have to be consistent.